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  • Sandi5i7
    Bloodstained
    • Feb 2021
    • 27

    what next

    Good afternoon. Apologies for a long post, but I'm looking for some advice from more knowledgeable people than me on this caliber as to where to go next. Not by any means an expert at reloading, But not brand new either. Been doing it for a year or so now, 223 and 30-06.

    New to me 6.5G upper, PSA, 18" riding on an RRA lower. Started researching this round several months ago for a co-worker, who wanted me to load hunting rounds for him. He has since retired and is traveling, so he sold me the RRA .223 and a PSA 6.5 Upper.

    Researched loading for 123 SST, which is the round he was using and liked. Decided on IMR 8208XBR for it's low temp sensitivity. Here in S. GA it can start at 30 in the morning and be 80 by noon during hunting season. I started with once fired Hornady brass, cleaned, trimmed to 1.510. Brass was sized back 3 thousandths to 1.2140 on a Hornady comparator. Loaded with Hornady 123 SST seated to OAL 2.2450. CCI 450. Those numbers I got from reading here. I used my triple beam scale for this loading. My eyes aren't the greatest anymore with little lines, so I have some inconsistencies in my numbers. Now have, thanks to my wife, an electronic scale so I'm hoping my numbers get better.

    After much reading and digesting I loaded a string of 10 rounds for a chrono test, starting at 26 and running .2 grains up each round, ending with 27.8. wasn't interested in top speed, more concerned with good speed, and not ruining his bolt. (now my bolt)

    On top of that loaded additional 15 rounds, in 3 round groups for ladder/consistency testing. .3 grain increments starting at 26. what follows are my numbers, from a magneto speed.

    No accuracy Info, I don't have glass for the rifle yet so I did a dirty bore sight with an excess Eotech, just so I didn't launch any over the berm. This was mostly just for chrono data.

    26- 2342
    26.2- 2377
    26.4- 2404
    26.6- 2405
    26.8- 2410
    27- 2487
    27.2- 2477
    27.4- 2498

    I didn't shoot the remainder as I wasn't comfortable going above 2500. I've read some of your horror stories of 8208 falling off the cliff and breaking things. Expensive, hard to find things. Not interested.

    3 round groups, which unfortunately my wife unplugged the magneto speed before I could archive, so I don't have the ES/SD numbers just the speed, as written down on paper.

    26-
    2352
    2407
    2378

    26.3-
    2367
    2371
    2407

    26.6-
    2418
    2371
    2407

    26.9-
    2475
    2460
    2447

    27.2-
    2459
    2472
    2453

    So, with all that info, what's my next move?

    I'm thinking based on just my single numbers I'm leaning to some 5 round groups between 26.4 to 26.8. Or is there another option to refine my numbers? I'm hoping to reduce some of those wild swings with the e-scale on the next loading.

    Any help is appreciated.
  • VASCAR2
    Chieftain
    • Mar 2011
    • 6227

    #2
    Last edited by VASCAR2; 02-28-2021, 09:30 PM.

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    • StoneHendge
      Chieftain
      • May 2016
      • 2014

      #3
      I'd get some glass so you can test for accuracy!
      Let's go Brandon!

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      • Oryx
        Bloodstained
        • Jan 2021
        • 98

        #4
        Looks like your on a good track to finding the node ... just need to make sure the charges are weighed consistently whether on a beam or electronic scale. Looks like some of the data from the 3 shot groups had a pretty wild spread.

        What part of SE GA are you in?

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        • Sandi5i7
          Bloodstained
          • Feb 2021
          • 27

          #5
          Originally posted by StoneHendge View Post
          I'd get some glass so you can test for accuracy!
          Originally posted by Oryx View Post
          Looks like your on a good track to finding the node ... just need to make sure the charges are weighed consistently whether on a beam or electronic scale. Looks like some of the data from the 3 shot groups had a pretty wild spread.

          What part of SE GA are you in?
          Last edited by Sandi5i7; 03-01-2021, 12:23 AM.

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          • VASCAR2
            Chieftain
            • Mar 2011
            • 6227

            #6
            Last edited by VASCAR2; 03-01-2021, 02:13 AM.

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            • Bigs28
              Chieftain
              • Feb 2016
              • 1786

              #7
              Depending on your budget, i will sell this
              SWFA is an optics manufacturing specializing in rifle scopes built for tactical, hunting, and long range shooting known for quality and precision optics.

              For $1400 with the mount included. Illumination is not daylight bright but works at dawn and dusk just fine.

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              • Constitutionalist
                Warrior
                • Nov 2016
                • 275

                #8
                My best load with the 123 SST is pretty much what you had listed (CCI-450, etc.) at 27.0gr. 2450fps from a 20" tube. Ladder tests, etc. will get you close to the best load but the true test of a gun/load combination's accuracy comes from shooting it.

                Good luck and have fun!

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