8208 xbr substitute

[TedBrewer5]

[1Shot]

I have not found anything as good as 8208. With 4 lbs you can load 1000 rounds. If you don't already have 1000 primers and bullets it is a moot point. Powder and bullets will probably show up a LOOOOOOOOOG time before primers will and then if you are not quick enough on the purchase those that have about 1,000,000 primers already horded back will scoop them up.

Some are having good luck with H4895 and H335 with 120s.

[mdram]

i would look for something close on the burn rate chart

[lazyengineer]

Probably AR-Comp or Varget, I suppose. Both of which are large grain, so don't flow as well.

[grayfox]

For the 120 class, I'd say AR comp. Has some temp stability like xbr and works well for me in this class. I use it for my 123 SST's and have done ladders with both the 120 pro hunter and the 120 gold dots. I save my Xbr for my 100 ttsx's and 95 Vmax's.
If you have 4 lbs you're sitting pretty good. I have about 2.5-3 myself.
Just don't do any spray and pray at the range.
For plinking use those 85-90 gr pills and H335.

[StoneHendge]

There is no substitute for XBR and it's ability to spike pressure with 120/123's in Grendel. Other powders will tell you when you're hot consistently - not just every now and then.

[Harpoon1]

With 120+ bullets, Leverevelution! ES/SD are unbelievably consistent and low for any powder but, especially for a spherical powder.

[TedBrewer5]

[grayfox]

Powder right now is a herd of unicorns...

[TedBrewer5]

I have seen 4895 and H335 come through via discord the last couple of days. Hodgdon seems to be putting out powder at the best rate lately

[mdram]

shooters world seems to drop alot, maybe try precision, match or tactical?

[mv1arms]

With 120+ bullets, Leverevelution! ES/SD are unbelievably consistent and low for any powder but, especially for a spherical powder.

I second this. LVR is giving me single digit SDs with limited testing. However that's only on the hotter side of charge weights.

[TedBrewer5]

I have been intrigued by the reports about LVR. Much research was done by me on the site prior to purchasing my Grendel. Some did pop up today.
If I dropped down to 100 gr bullets like the Sierra varmiter HP what powders work for lighter pills?

[grayfox]

well, xbr of course.
H335 does well for that weight.
H322, AA2520, RL10x, Accurate 2200.
CFE (I have listed for couple of 100's), AA2460.
Speer even shows some AR comp for its 90's.

Benchmark/2230 also might be a possibility but I don't have them on my list.

[TedBrewer5]