Hornady 11th ed book, 6mm ARC, WOW!

[Happy2Shoot]

First off, WOW!

Hornady went bananas over the 6mm ARC.

Hornady gives the Grendel 3 blocks of data 95/100gr, 120/123gr, and 129/130gr.

The ARC gets 58, 65, 75, 80GMX, 85/87/90, 90GMX, 95/100, 103/105, 108/110.

The ARC gets all the cool powder data like LEVERevolution, PP Varmint, X-Terminator, PP 2000 MR.

As if that weren't enough! They did two completely separate pressures! There is load data for AR15's and bolt guns at 62,000 psi.

No new data for the Grendel; we are the red-headed-stepchild.

In case you are wondering there is only about one grain of powder difference between gas and bolt max loads. If you are loading 3 grains over max for your 6.5 Grendel bolt gun you are most likely too high.

Gas-gun LEVERevolution 6mm ARC data for those have been making up their 6.5 Grendel LEVERevolution data (max loads):

108gr ELD/110gr A-Tip Match LEVERevolution 29.7gr / CFE223 29.1GR
95GR SST/100BTSP LEVERevolution 29.7GR / CFE223 29.4GR

LEVERevolution seems to track close to CFE223, if this helps anyone.

[Lemonaid]

How does the book compare (more loads? different data?) from the online postings? https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/...105gr-data.pdf

https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/hornady/files/load-data/6mm-arc-bolt.pdf

[GSPDad]

It's the new hotness and their baby so of course they will favor it lol. As for performance, I'd rather have the Grendel.

[LRRPF52]

[Happy2Shoot]

How does the book compare (more loads? different data?) from the online postings? https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/...105gr-data.pdf
https://www.hornady.com/assets/site/...m-arc-bolt.pdf

Ahhhhhh, I feel dumb. Did not know all this was already posted online. Looks about the same.

[StoneHendge]

Any company that published load data does it for their products. The data that Hornady has for 6.5G represents the bullet classes they make that are appropriate for the caliber. The data that they have for 6 ARC represents the bullet classes they make that are appropriate, which happens to be all of them. What it does show is how much more versatile 6 ARC is and how the caliber also has a much broader selection of projectiles.

[kmon]

Doesn't surprise me a bit. The ARC is their baby, the 6.5 Grendel was another companies and they took AAs design and helped get it SAAMI spec with a couple loadings and then left it to sink or swim. The ARC they copied another cartridge and made it fit longer bullets for long range and claim it as their best thing since sliced bread now they are trying to push it as hard as they can.

Kinda like the 260 Remington being changed slightly to make the Creedmoor and in reality the Creedmoor and 260 cannot do anything the almost 130 year 6.5X55 Sweed can except the Sweed doesn't fit short actions well.

[Zeneffect]

im going to guess .224 valkyrie is missing like the 10th edition i have?

[Happy2Shoot]

im going to guess .224 valkyrie is missing like the 10th edition i have?

You are in luck!

5 pages, good selection of powder, 6 groups of bullet weights.

[Bjorn]

What it does show is how much more versatile 6 ARC is and how the caliber also has a much broader selection of projectiles.

Ya, but, "I hunt with a Grendel" sounds a lot more fun that "I shoot a 6mm ARC."

[cwlongshot]

Yup as mentioned as expected.

Its a fine lil caliber but as a hunting gun Id still take the Grendel 10/9. The arc isnt even a 243 and I always found that a minimum. FINE FOR STEEL!! Very low recoil miserly with powder FAST twist for the fancy long boolits. But its Velocity and energy bear out its less powerful that something most call a minimum big game caliber.

CW

[GSPDad]

i had to laugh at the ARC upper with 10 boxes of ammo deal at midsouth. Hornady must be really desperate to push this round out.

[Zeneffect]

i had to laugh at the ARC upper with 10 boxes of ammo deal at midsouth. Hornady must be really desperate to push this round out.

Let's think about the economics of it though. Is there really a better time with everything flying off the shelves? I think it's quite the opposite, people are desperate to get whatever they can.

[StoneHendge]

i had to laugh at the ARC upper with 10 boxes of ammo deal at midsouth. Hornady must be really desperate to push this round out.

I think MidSouth is trying to get rid of the 8 twist barrels with 1/2x24 threads. Funny thing is, an 8 twist won't even stabilize that bullet.

[GSPDad]

Let's think about the economics of it though. Is there really a better time with everything flying off the shelves? I think it's quite the opposite, people are desperate to get whatever they can.

They must have a shitload of them then, that special has been going for several weeks and both uppers with the ammo deal are just sitting in stock. No name upper, in an unfamiliar caliber, unlikely to sell well even in these times. They've got to be desperate to think folks are going to pay 1200-1500 for those uppers with 200rds of ammo even during these times. An entire 6mm ARC rifle from that same manufacturer is 1500 bucks and the same upper is 749, so Midsouth wants 500 bucks for 200 rds of ammo LAWL. Just LAWL. People are fools if they think this is a deal. Its just another attempt to separate a fool from their money during a panic.