Alexander Arms Customer Service

[MeatAxe]

[Happy2Shoot]

I agree.

https://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?23590-How-is-Alexander-Arms-about-processing-their-orders

How do you like your rifle?

[Harpoon1]

[MeatAxe]

[montana]

If you have access to a function gauge, you would know if the chamber is out of spec. https://pacifictoolandgauge.com/func...ion-gauge.html

[A5BLASTER]

When it comes to doing buisness with AA. Always and I mean always call and confirm something is instock before ordering and also confirm product specs.

Their barrel specs are just stupid now. They dropped the old thread pattern for the normal 5/8x24 but went from .759 gas blocks to .825 profile. That has caused them to lose my business.

[Oso Polaris]

I don't understand the surprise. Isn't this the same person who almost suffocated this cartridge by patenting someone else's design. Just saying... fool me once.

[A5BLASTER]

I don't understand the surprise. Isn't this the same person who almost suffocated this cartridge by patenting someone else's design. Just saying... fool me once.

What in the world are you talking about?

[BluntForceTrauma]

Oso, incorrect on the rumors you're repeating. I was there from the beginning in 2003 and am still here and know most everything about the whole Arne and Bill thing. Talked regularly with both on the phone in those early years.

At any rate, Bill Alexander left Alexander Arms years ago and now works somewhere else.

[Oso Polaris]

What in the world are you talking about?

I believer there was some "color" around the development and subsequent patent of the the 6.5 Grendel cartridge. I have heard that not everyone at the table was happy with how this played out... The introduction and rollout of the 6.5 Grendel and 300BO is a great comparison of two different ways/approaches. In the early years, AA's rigorous enforcement of the patent and licensing for all things Grendel retarded the cartridge's acceptance/marketshare (no ammo on the shelf, limited rifle components, etc). By comparison, AAC allowed the 300BO to be produced by anyone, similar to open sourcing. The thing everyone forgets is that the Grendel had been in the market for a number of years before the 300BO was introduced. However, after the 300BO was introduced, I could walk into Academy and find a variety of 300BO on the shelf, but still no Grendel. Fortunately, AA changed its approach and the Grendel is now readily available.

All of the Grendel guys who don't understand why anyone would pick the 300BO or how it became so widespread and popular - now you know. Yes, there are 300BO shooters, who have been in the cartridge for +10 years, that probably would have preferred a Grendel except that this just wasn't a pragmatic option at the time. Back then everyone did the SHTF analysis (limited ammo and limited rifle components) so they chose the 300BO. This is how my friends all ended up with 300BO. As to how the 300BO has remained so popular - cost and availability of ammunition, greater frequency of AR15 chambered in 300BO on the shelf at LGS, and some fantastic marketing promoting 300BO as the Wild Pig cartridge.

Please don't take offense - none of what I said above is a disparagement of the 6.5 Grendel cartridge, just a bit of history and lore of how egos and poor business decisions handicapped a fine cartridge. Luckily, things have changed and the Grendel's popularity continues to grow. The 6ARC will further increase its popularity.

Personal choice - Regardless of Bill's departure from AA, there are so many other quality options and manufacturers for Grendel...

[biodsl]

I believer there was some "color" around the development and subsequent patent of the the 6.5 Grendel cartridge. I have heard that not everyone at the table was happy with how this played out... The introduction and rollout of the 6.5 Grendel and 300BO is a great comparison of two different ways/approaches. In the early years, AA's rigorous enforcement of the patent and licensing for all things Grendel retarded the cartridge's acceptance/marketshare (no ammo on the shelf, limited rifle components, etc).

And avoided the quality control issues we've seen in the .224 Valk and 6MM ARC intro; e.g. short chambers, inappropriate twist rates, etcetera.

And BTW, the 300 Whisper had been around for years before the cartridge got SAAMI'ed as the BO. All the teething problems had been worked out.

[StoneHendge]

And avoided the quality control issues we've seen in the .224 Valk and 6MM ARC intro; e.g. short chambers, inappropriate twist rates, etcetera.

Alexander Arms sold a bunch of short chambered 6.5G's what, 2-3 years ago? At the same time Bear Creek Arsenal sold a bunch of short chambered 6.5G's

[biodsl]

Alexander Arms sold a bunch of short chambered 6.5G's what, 2-3 years ago? At the same time Bear Creek Arsenal sold a bunch of short chambered 6.5G's

[JASmith]

And avoided the quality control issues we've seen in the .224 Valk and 6MM ARC intro; e.g. short chambers, inappropriate twist rates, etcetera.

And BTW, the 300 Whisper had been around for years before the cartridge got SAAMI'ed as the BO. All the teething problems had been worked out.

+1!

[Oso Polaris]

Tightly Controlled QC or Monopolizing Sales/Greed... Tomato / Tomato.

300 Whisper is a fine caliber, most notably it has a shorter throat then the 300BO. I read somewhere that AAC got the go-ahead blessing from the 300Whisper folks before moving forward... no chapped butts.

I prefer the 6mmAR over the 6ARC... altruistic appeal. You won't find me buying a 300 Ham'R, either.