Buffers

[Bigs28]

I went to a gun shop today to look into some parts for my upper build I've been working on and the guy working there pretty much said my lower sucks. I did buy a lower parts kit from psa and was on a budget but was looking for something functional I could upgrade later. I have a standard buffer tube and spring and he was pushing me hard to upgrade to https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.7.2_os.php
Does anyone use these and have any thoughts?

[Kinganuthin]

Meh.. Good for subsonic suppressed, like 300 blackout..
I would, however, jump up to H2 or H3 buffer. Maybe a chrome silicon spring to take out some noise.

[Kinganuthin]

What lower did you get?

[mongoosesnipe]

I went to a gun shop today to look into some parts for my upper build I've been working on and the guy working there pretty much said my lower sucks. I did buy a lower parts kit from psa and was on a budget but was looking for something functional I could upgrade later. I have a standard buffer tube and spring and he was pushing me hard to upgrade to https://www.jprifles.com/1.4.7.2_os.php
Does anyone use these and have any thoughts?

you do know his job is to sell you expensive stuff right..... the only part of a standard lower parts kit that i would say actually sucks is the trigger... and even that is kind of subjective to intended use, if you are running an a2 tube with rifle buffer i see no real advantage to getting the jp silent capture 140 buffer spring deal

i looked into the jp silent buffer long and hard as the noise of a buffer screeching down the tune actually bugged me quite a bit but ended up going with a tubb flat wire recoil spring after reading several reviews and opinions on the subject off buffer noise and honestly for $24 my problem was solved, but my problem was not a functional issue, functionally there was no issue and the lower was put together from a kit from model1sales so probably the cheapest stuff available....

that said all the parts in my lower other than the trigger(replaced with geissele hi-speed match) and the tube flat wire spring the guts of my lower are still the cheapest parts available

if you want to put a meaningful $140 into your lower wait for the geissele g2s to go on sale usually happens a few times a year around national holidays next one will probably be over memorial weekend or forth of july http://www.midwayusa.com/product/949...wo-stage-matte

and if your running carbine buffer an h2 or h3 buffer with the flatwire spring wouldn't be a bad idea but again not necessarily necessary first man the gun work then change the trigger and you will probably find the only things left you want/need to do to the gun are cosmetic

[Klem]

you do know his job is to sell you expensive stuff right..... the only part of a standard lower parts kit that i would say actually sucks is the trigger... and even that is kind of subjective to intended use, if you are running an a2 tube with rifle buffer i see no real advantage to getting the jp silent capture 140 buffer spring deal

i looked into the jp silent buffer long and hard as the noise of a buffer screeching down the tune actually bugged me quite a bit but ended up going with a tubb flat wire recoil spring after reading several reviews and opinions on the subject off buffer noise and honestly for $24 my problem was solved, but my problem was not a functional issue, functionally there was no issue and the lower was put together from a kit from model1sales so probably the cheapest stuff available....

that said all the parts in my lower other than the trigger(replaced with geissele hi-speed match) and the tube flat wire spring the guts of my lower are still the cheapest parts available

if you want to put a meaningful $140 into your lower wait for the geissele g2s to go on sale usually happens a few times a year around national holidays next one will probably be over memorial weekend or forth of july http://www.midwayusa.com/product/949...wo-stage-matte

and if your running carbine buffer an h2 or h3 buffer with the flatwire spring wouldn't be a bad idea but again not necessarily necessary first man the gun work then change the trigger and you will probably find the only things left you want/need to do to the gun are cosmetic

+1...Well said!

[lbbf]

If I ever walked into a shop and someone who worked there told me my stuff sucked I would never grace their door again. I did have someone tell me I wasted my money on a decent barrel when I bought all that cheap crap to go with it. We went to the range the next day and he spent the whole time we were getting set up telling me that he would show me how a real gun should shoot. He fired of a 1.25 inch 5 shot group and was as excited as could be. Then he didn't even have the courtesy to stick around to see me finish my 0.3" group. :-) I still haven't talked him a year later. He won't respond to my invites to go shoot again.
AERO Percision Blem Upper and Lower
Rock River lower parts kit with single stage trigger(I've since upgraded it.)
No name charging handle
Seekins Precision BCG
Rock River Varmit 20" heavy barrel
Nordic componets hand guard
Brunton scope.

[wheelguner]

I use the Jp AR-15 Silent Captured Spring assys in both of Grendels simply because I couldn't tolerate the spring noise of the standard recoil assy and willing to pay to get rid of it. I enjoy shooting them MUCH more now. I am old enough and ornery enough to not put up with minor irritations that are easily corrected.

[Jagorrell84]

I also use the JP SCS in my Grendel and absolutely love it. Its inside of a Magpul UBR Stock. I do like that I can tune it along with the adjustable gas block for absolute efficiency. It is quite quieter than my buddy's who has the normal spring. I am building my Wife a .223 Build right now and am also going to be using the JP SCS in that. I am a believer.

[mongoosesnipe]

the tubb fit wire spring is also very quiet compared to the stock coil spring which would actually give me a head ache since i was using a pro and actually running a cheek weld

i think the jp sis is a awesome product but i certainly don't think a lower which does not possess it is junk a good trigger on the other hand.....

[Holyfather12]

what do you guys recommend for a buffer? I intend to mount a Luth-AR A2 length stock on it.

[VASCAR2]

what do you guys recommend for a buffer? I intend to mount a Luth-AR A2 length stock on it.

If the Luth-AR stock has an A-2 rifle buffer tube I'd use a rifle length spring with rifle buffer. The noise of the standard spring never bothered me. I guess I'm really getting to be old school but I like the standard AR-15 fixed A-2 rifle stock and the six position collapsable M-4 stocks.

[mongoosesnipe]

i use standard rifle buffer with tubb flatwire spring

[am4966]

Tubbs Flat wire, Wolfe springs take some of the boing out of the system. Id have no problem using one with a spikes H2 or rifle buffer and a rifle spring. My next couple builds I'm not sure if I'm going to use a Jp scs system or tubbs and H2. Just depends on funds.

However I have a Jp scs in my sbr I got it used for less so that's a plus. Also sign up for sales emails from DSG Arms they have them on sale a few times a year for 110.00 or so.