.22 Nosler ???

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  • WillD
    Chieftain
    • Nov 2014
    • 1257

    .22 Nosler ???

    Has anyone ordered one yet or thoughts on the caliber?

    Might be a neat upper to own?

    -Will-
    Member since 03/2011, pre-SAAMI, Pre-crash
  • Clarence
    Bloodstained
    • Dec 2015
    • 53

    #2
    Looks like it's halfway between .223 and .22-250. Do you think the view is worth the climb for 200 fps? With 25% more case volume, you should not expect any more than that, at equal pressure. Trade-offs pretty significant, in terms of cost of brass, availability of ammo. With a larger case diameter, one would need to wonder if it's not necessary to drop the max pressure to preserve bolt life. If that's necessary, comparison between NATO pressure 5.56 and lower max pressure .22 Nosler would lessen the significance of any benefit.

    Clarence

    Clarence

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    • Kilco
      Chieftain
      • Jan 2016
      • 1201

      #3
      I'm a little frustrated that the cartridge used 6.8 mags.. I was hoping it would use 6.5 Grendel mags, and possibly drive some new interest in more Grendel magazine options.

      I don't really get the 22 Nosler to be honest... if your varminting, why go "almost" as good as a 22-250 when you can roll 204 Ruger for just a barrel swap and be even flatter longer than a 22-250...

      And why go 22 Nosler for a long range cartridge when you are still limited to the mag length 22 cal bullets, and still have less than stellar hunting capabilities. Just roll 6.5G or one of the 6mm wildcat cartridges...

      I just don't really get the niche it fills..

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      • SightedIn
        Warrior
        • Jun 2016
        • 217

        #4
        Dont get it either, i dont see the void its trying to fill.

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        • 1911man
          Warrior
          • May 2015
          • 482

          #5
          Yep, this is stupid. I see how it can fill a very specific need but this is not going to offer enough benefits to make the change worth it. It also really hurts that you cant use standard pmags for it.

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          • mongoosesnipe
            Chieftain
            • May 2012
            • 1142

            #6
            it is just a barrel swap to go to 22 nosler as well it is bassically a 6.8 case with a rebated rim to use 556 bolt face, i like the concept but it doesnt have much use for me
            Punctuation is for the weak....

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            • WillD
              Chieftain
              • Nov 2014
              • 1257

              #7
              What interested me was the performance with the heavy .224 " projectiles. In Texas the .22-250 is a fairly popular calibre for deer especially for a culling. My thoughts were it's a simple upper change to an easily suppressed platform along with magazine capacity over that of your normal .22-250 bolt gun. It is certainly NOT a new wheel. It might be an effective tool on some high fenced ranches? YMMV

              -Will-
              Member since 03/2011, pre-SAAMI, Pre-crash

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              • Kilco
                Chieftain
                • Jan 2016
                • 1201

                #8
                Originally posted by WillD View Post
                What interested me was the performance with the heavy .224 " projectiles. In Texas the .22-250 is a fairly popular calibre for deer especially for a culling. My thoughts were it's a simple upper change to an easily suppressed platform along with magazine capacity over that of your normal .22-250 bolt gun. It is certainly NOT a new wheel. It might be an effective tool on some high fenced ranches? YMMV

                -Will-
                Originally I thought the same as you, however when I saw the case OAL, I shook my head. It basically limits you to the same heavy bullets being used in the 5.56 currently... if you try to run one of the awesome high B.C 22 cal bullets (75 eld, 80 eld, 80 smk)the ogive will be beneath the case mouth..

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                • explorecaves
                  Warrior
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 284

                  #9
                  I have heard rumors of many of the nosler specific calibers burning out barrels in as few as a couple hundred rounds.... No idea if there is any truth to it or not....

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                  • rabiddawg
                    Chieftain
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1664

                    #10
                    I would compare this to Pizza Hut.

                    Ever watch a Pizza Hut commercial and say yuck? They don't really care. They just want you to try it, if it turns out you like it it stays on the menu if not it goes away quietly.

                    Nosler may think they have a big enough fan base that will support anything Nosler.
                    Knowing everthing isnt as important as knowing where to find it.

                    Mark Twain

                    http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...2-Yd-Whitetail

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                    • Kilco
                      Chieftain
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 1201

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rabiddawg View Post
                      I would compare this to Pizza Hut.

                      Ever watch a Pizza Hut commercial and say yuck? They don't really care. They just want you to try it, if it turns out you like it it stays on the menu if not it goes away quietly.

                      Nosler may think they have a big enough fan base that will support anything Nosler.
                      Ive had amazing success with the 28 Nosler. Can't say enough about how impressive a cartridge this is. 195 Berger EOL going 3200 fps is absolutely no joke at all! And it fits in a standard long action chamber. Replaced the 7mm STW for my favorite 284 cartridge.

                      I have no experience with the 30 or 33 Nosler, but the 26 ans 28 are truly phenominal cartridges. Easy to load for, and thus far Nosler has been great about brass demand.

                      As you can see I'm a big fan of Nosler new cartridges, but again, I truly don't get the 22 Nosler.

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                      • Kilco
                        Chieftain
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1201

                        #12
                        Originally posted by explorecaves View Post
                        I have heard rumors of many of the nosler specific calibers burning out barrels in as few as a couple hundred rounds.... No idea if there is any truth to it or not....
                        26 Nosler is the hardest on barrels due to raw overbore. I own a Browning x bolt chambered in 26 Nosler and have nothing bad to say about it. 450 rounds down the pipe with little to no signs of erosion thus far. It's a hunting cartridge keep in mind.. not meant for long strings of fire.

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                        • rabiddawg
                          Chieftain
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 1664

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kilco View Post
                          Ive had amazing success with the 28 Nosler. Can't say enough about how impressive a cartridge this is. 195 Berger EOL going 3200 fps is absolutely no joke at all! And it fits in a standard long action chamber. Replaced the 7mm STW for my favorite 284 cartridge.

                          I have no experience with the 30 or 33 Nosler, but the 26 ans 28 are truly phenominal cartridges. Easy to load for, and thus far Nosler has been great about brass demand.

                          As you can see I'm a big fan of Nosler new cartridges, but again, I truly don't get the 22 Nosler.
                          I think you prove my point
                          Knowing everthing isnt as important as knowing where to find it.

                          Mark Twain

                          http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...2-Yd-Whitetail

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                          • just_john
                            Chieftain
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1596

                            #14
                            Maybe Nosler just wanted a 22 with their name on it

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                            • LRRPF52
                              Super Moderator
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 9027

                              #15
                              I'm a big fan of Nosler and all they do for the shooting community, and I particularly love their ABLR line, as well as the new RDF bullets. I have a sample of the 22 Nosler cartridge from their booth at SHOT. The first thing that comes to my mind is trying to understand why anyone is making a .224 bore AR15 cartridge in 2017 with the same case length as .223, which many of us have lamented for its inability to mag-feed high BC projectiles due to ogive length constraints.

                              Here's the cartridge next to .223 Rem:

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                              CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor

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