Originally posted by carlhwv
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I wonder if the groups tighten up with the suppressor because of operator comfort or velocity change? Hopefully we will see someone post some velocity info. I'm getting my reloading kit together and getting back into the Gun Club so I have a good place to shoot, hopefully all in the next month. I know it's like everything, but I been looking at the chronographs folks are using and reading how different units produce different results with the same load. Spending a lot right now on stuff I really need and wondering how important the chrono is. I need to work up a hunting load for November Elk trip. I get the need for chrono for working out dope but at this point in time I'm going to be shooting inside 400yds and I know some of the guys at the club have them, so if I get something that groups tight, I can then get the info I need from their chrono when they are at the range at the same time. Is my thinking straight on this?Carl
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Living free and willing to lay it down to keep it that way......
Eternally grateful to my brothers and sisters that did and to those who strap it on each day so that we may enjoy life the way we do
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Originally posted by carlhwv View PostI wonder if the groups tighten up with the suppressor because of operator comfort or velocity change? Hopefully we will see someone post some velocity info. I'm getting my reloading kit together and getting back into the Gun Club so I have a good place to shoot, hopefully all in the next month. I know it's like everything, but I been looking at the chronographs folks are using and reading how different units produce different results with the same load. Spending a lot right now on stuff I really need and wondering how important the chrono is. I need to work up a hunting load for November Elk trip. I get the need for chrono for working out dope but at this point in time I'm going to be shooting inside 400yds and I know some of the guys at the club have them, so if I get something that groups tight, I can then get the info I need from their chrono when they are at the range at the same time. Is my thinking straight on this?
I'm going to try to get back to the range Friday for the MOA all day challenge and I need to outshoot the shootist. I'm so comfortable behind this gun I don't think I'll have any issues. My shootist target was .497. The razor makes this gun seem like cheating. For hunting I'd likely throw the Burris back on.
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We know LaRue stuff is great, but so is this caliber. .7MOA and better seems very achievable for a lot of folks with home builds if they follow the accuracy directions. I bet we are going to see quite a few single hole group with the LaRues once guys start reloading....and can do it, which won't be me.......I don't have those skills. I don't think I would mess with it if there was a good hunting load available.Last edited by carlhwv; 08-02-2017, 04:02 PM.Carl
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Living free and willing to lay it down to keep it that way......
Eternally grateful to my brothers and sisters that did and to those who strap it on each day so that we may enjoy life the way we do
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" ....I'd probably be using the 129gr ABLR though." Why? I would love to know. Would you please expound? I'm new to the horde and don't reload, so as of now, my world consists of Hornady and Wolf. Was considering buying loaded ammo from PF and or Alexander for hunting deer and maybe elk someday and am looking to expand my horizons. Would you please explain the comparative advantages that the ABLR or TSX give as far as exterior and terminal ballistics. Being confined to purchasing and then trial and error leaves some of us dependent on the manufacturers(in this case Hornady 123SST) and their advertising. You're an expert (well...THE Expert) so a quick lesson on what the extra $1 per round on average for Bill and Mark's loadings will give us would be greatly appreciated. Especially interested in the details of the two bullets construction, exterior and terminal ballistics, what differentiates the two bullets' construction and if you have any experience with ether of the two rifle manufacturer's offerings? Sorry for the long winded/multi-part question, it's been eating at me for a while...like since before I joined the Horde.
PF-6.5 Grendel Neptune EL V-I 20" Fluted
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Crusader, in short the 129 ablr offers a high ballistic coefficient and expansion at lower velocities thus extending the range of the Grendel when compared to other 120 class pills.
The advantage offered by PF ammo is a wide range of loadings including some that are considered "premium" and lapua brass. I'm not sure if AA uses lapua brass.Last edited by rabiddawg; 08-07-2017, 12:41 PM.Knowing everthing isnt as important as knowing where to find it.
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Originally posted by crusader18 View Post" ....I'd probably be using the 129gr ABLR though." Why? I would love to know. Would you please expound? I'm new to the horde and don't reload, so as of now, my world consists of Hornady and Wolf. Was considering buying loaded ammo from PF and or Alexander for hunting deer and maybe elk someday and am looking to expand my horizons. Would you please explain the comparative advantages that the ABLR or TSX give as far as exterior and terminal ballistics. Being confined to purchasing and then trial and error leaves some of us dependent on the manufacturers(in this case Hornady 123SST) and their advertising. You're an expert (well...THE Expert) so a quick lesson on what the extra $1 per round on average for Bill and Mark's loadings will give us would be greatly appreciated. Especially interested in the details of the two bullets construction, exterior and terminal ballistics, what differentiates the two bullets' construction and if you have any experience with ether of the two rifle manufacturer's offerings? Sorry for the long winded/multi-part question, it's been eating at me for a while...like since before I joined the Horde.
PF-6.5 Grendel Neptune EL V-I 20" Fluted
As mentioned, the 129gr ABLR is a bonded cup/core bullet from Nosler. It rapidly expands upon entrance, and has an expansion threshold down to 1300fps impact, which is much lower than any other bonded hunting bullet on the market that I'm aware of for the .264"/6.5mm bore. It also has a BC of .553 G1, so it does not like to slow down much at all.
It's one of the go-to premium hunting bullets for 6.5 Grendel, especially for those with shorter barrels.NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
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I know I've seen it posted, but for the life of me I'm not able to find the posts. Does anyone have data on this "custom" loading ML is having sent with every rifle? I'm curious about what he thinks is "acceptable" ammunition to send with his namesake. This waiting is killing me, It's been "GTG" for four days. My brain hurts!Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.
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I think the custom ammo is a 120gr Berger OTM. Haven't seen it yet.
I did color-fills on my rifle:
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6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:
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Nice work on the fill!Carl
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Living free and willing to lay it down to keep it that way......
Eternally grateful to my brothers and sisters that did and to those who strap it on each day so that we may enjoy life the way we do
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OK so, just looked at my acct with Larue, apparently My Tranquillo shipped Wednesday. No email, no nothing. Haven't heard from the shop either, 'spose to arrive today. So, SURPIRSE! Form 4 for me, but still no rifle... HA! Mark must be making it purr! Well, faith in the things you love leads to good results. Now, off to the FFL~Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.
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Originally posted by Kswhitetails View PostOK so, just looked at my acct with Larue, apparently My Tranquillo shipped Wednesday. No email, no nothing. Haven't heard from the shop either, 'spose to arrive today. So, SURPIRSE! Form 4 for me, but still no rifle... HA! Mark must be making it purr! Well, faith in the things you love leads to good results. Now, off to the FFL~
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I did just that, but still saw no email. The Tranq is still the only thing that's shipped. (I haven't heard from the shop, on my call today, I was informed the FFL owner is on vacation...) I'm getting jumpy. Every time I see a UPS truck I can't resist the urge to check my order status. I need a vacation... WAY out in the boonies, where even UPS trucks don't dare, and cell service is a fabled bedtime story.Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.
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It's getting hard to hold my breath, so in an effort to make myself a prophet, I'm going to vent a little impatience. Order placed 8/4. Supressor shipped 8/16, form 4s sent in last week. Oh yea, baby. If NFATRACKER is right and it's 241 days, that'll coincidentally make my new supressor a birthday gift next year. The wife paid the stamp so she could claim that one now. :P
Still no word on the rifle and 5.56 cartridge. I guess I most assuredly did NOT get in on the "small run"(my assumption was that the FDE was a special deal... what does assume mean again?), and there was apparently no reason to jump from the UU I had already bought because now, the UU guys can get the supressor at half price too. (And to add insult to injury, at the moment I can't afford another Tranquillo )
Other than that, I am patiently, happily, waiting (and turning blue) for my precioussss new rifle to grace my doorstep; And to outshoot the Larue shootist; and more dust, I've run out of that tonight too. Sigh.
Cheers; and here's to all those who pray for patience~Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.
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Originally posted by Kswhitetails View PostIt's getting hard to hold my breath, so in an effort to make myself a prophet, I'm going to vent a little impatience. Order placed 8/4. Supressor shipped 8/16, form 4s sent in last week. Oh yea, baby. If NFATRACKER is right and it's 241 days, that'll coincidentally make my new supressor a birthday gift next year. The wife paid the stamp so she could claim that one now. :P
Still no word on the rifle and 5.56 cartridge. I guess I most assuredly did NOT get in on the "small run"(my assumption was that the FDE was a special deal... what does assume mean again?), and there was apparently no reason to jump from the UU I had already bought because now, the UU guys can get the supressor at half price too. (And to add insult to injury, at the moment I can't afford another Tranquillo )
Other than that, I am patiently, happily, waiting (and turning blue) for my precioussss new rifle to grace my doorstep; And to outshoot the Larue shootist; and more dust, I've run out of that tonight too. Sigh.
Cheers; and here's to all those who pray for patience~
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