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  • AZHTfreak
    Warrior
    • Jan 2017
    • 316

    Tungsten buffer weights?

    So... Physics makes my brain hurt, but I'm ready to move onto the next phase of Grrr tuning. I've always run CAR buffers and springs in my builds, but it's time to see if going to a heavier buffer will help soften recoil. Are these weights a good starting point? Seem to be a decent price with $0 s/h... Already dialed in Superlative Arms AGBs on my 12.5" & 20", will these weights make a difference above and beyond the AGBs?

    Last edited by AZHTfreak; 03-17-2018, 07:10 PM.
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  • grayfox
    Chieftain
    • Jan 2017
    • 4669

    #2
    I just standardized on T2's, Kaw or Spikes... they are helping mine.
    I have an AGB aboard as well and that I think gives more benefits... idk about doing the Tungsten mods, will 1 or 2 of them substituted in give you an equivalent H2 or H3 weight?
    The beauty of the Spikes and Kaw is that the weights don't shift back and forth, some std buffers do allow that shifting... annoying.
    Maybe you want to look at a buffer spring changeout also...?

    OR, here's a thought... get a recoil-reducing muzzle brake. Several out there that work very well. VG6, Voodoo, others...
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    • AZHTfreak
      Warrior
      • Jan 2017
      • 316

      #3
      In addition to the AGBs, I'm running a Strike Ind King comp on the 20 and a Midwest Ind PBD blast diverter on the 12.5. But, I just picked up a VG6 from Schuyler for $40, doh, couldn't resist the price!

      Per my googlefoo, CAR=3steel, H1=2steel+1tungsten, H2=1steel+2tungsten, H3=3tungsten...

      Not familiar with a T2...? What do you suggest for a spring change?

      edit: Never mind, the T2 is spikes version of an H1.
      Last edited by AZHTfreak; 03-17-2018, 07:45 PM.
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      • grayfox
        Chieftain
        • Jan 2017
        • 4669

        #4
        Springs... go $$ dollar and do the SCS silent capture spring.
        Or go small dollars and JP centerless spring. (this is the one I'm using), gets rid of most of the sproing, might also help the recoil impulse a bit...
        On muzzle brakes, there are brakes and then there are brakes. Precision rifle blog has a good study on effectiveness, MB's effectiveness differ greatly. Also TTAG has study, showing again large delta's in how well they work.
        These use objective measurements instead of personal testimonies...
        I go for the ones that are economical but also very good at reducing the recoil...
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        • AZHTfreak
          Warrior
          • Jan 2017
          • 316

          #5
          Agreed, the TTAG tests were very objective and helpful. I've been satisfied with the King Comp's performance, it was my 2nd choice when I couldn't find a J Comp in 5/8x24 at the time.
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          • Lastrites
            Warrior
            • Apr 2017
            • 679

            #6
            For the money my J-Comp II works very well for me. Oh and that is not a bad price on the tungsten weights, just keep in mind that you may feel a touch more of a secondary pulse when the bcg slams home with the added weight, nothing bad but it is there so worth the mention.

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            • wilecoyote
              Warrior
              • Jul 2013
              • 154

              #7
              My Grendel ran with a standard gas block, standard weight carbine and rifle buffers and standard rate springs. I purchased a JP Silent Capture Spring to use in my 6.5 Creedmoor. Between it and the adjustable gas block, issues tuned right out of it (the Creedmoor).

              The SCS worked so well and was smooth and so quiet, I bought another for my Grendel. It's standard weight has worked perfectly. I also got another for my 6mm Creedmoor. It was the heavy version with two tungsten weights (equivalent of an H2). I swapped a stainless weight for one tungsten on the one in my 6.5 making both the one in the 6.5mm & 6mm the equivalent of H buffers. Has worked really well.

              The configurability of the JP SCS is great. My first came with additional springs at different rates. It's a nice and well thought out product. The sproing noise is gone. Cant wait till I get my can and see just how quiet it is. The spring noise never really bothered me, but it disappearing after hearing it for so long really made me notice the difference.

              Never thought I'd be spending some money on buffers and springs, but the SCS has been worth the extra money in my book. I keep a couple buffers and springs from other stocks on hand just incase I need spare repair parts, but no issues with my SCS 's and no plans for the others just to be in a box. If possible, try shooting a rifle with one. I'm sure you'd like it. I let a lot of people shoot my rifles, they usually like the setup and operation.
              Last edited by wilecoyote; 03-19-2018, 06:09 PM.
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              • AZHTfreak
                Warrior
                • Jan 2017
                • 316

                #8
                Thanks for all the great information! I think I'm going to try the tungsten weights first and then if not satisfied, I'll mess with the springs. Kinda used to the 'sproing', let's me know last round...
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