Very rough range report: PSA 12", D&H 10 round , Fed Fusion

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  • CWOZ
    Bloodstained
    • Nov 2018
    • 48

    Very rough range report: PSA 12", D&H 10 round , Fed Fusion

    OK, I jumped on the Grendel band wagon the "lazy" way, I bought a PSA pistol lower, and 12" upper already assembled. I know for shame...but I wanted a better smaller deer and critter gun than the 870 slug gun.

    I got the lower last week, the upper, D&H mag, and Fed Fusion came yesterday. Both of the PSA parts looked well made, no apparent issues. D&H mag is a hefty little thing, only issue I could find is the underside of the feed lips was sharp (burred?).

    I cleaned the upper and lubed it up, de-burred the feed lips and it was off to the range.

    35 degrees with a 10-15 knot cross wind, that is why it is a very rough report...IT WAS DARN CHILLY and the ground is soaked so I didn't go prone.

    At 50 yards, I shot 10 rounds of 120 gr Fusion, no feeding or extraction problems, bolt locked back after each of the first 5 single loaded rounds, loaded 2 rounds in the mag, fed and functioned fine. 3 rounds worked fine as well. I did not have to do any adjustment to the gas block. I will monkey with it on a nicer day.

    I can't give a fair assessment of the accuracy, my rest was a chair back with a bag on it, not real steady. I still got the 7 rounds I shot at the bull in a 3" group. It was cold, I was shivering, and my rest was not real stable. I can see the potential for some good accuracy with solid prone shooting. For now it will be fine for Bambi.

    Once I get a better day I will update.

    Mark

    OK I had a little better weather today and used a sandbag at 100 yd from a fairly stable picnic table with a 2-7X Leupold rimfire scope. (It wasn't attached to a rifle)

    Fed Fusion 120 gr, PSA 12" upper on PSA SBA3 EPT lower. Temp upper 40's, minimal breeze. D&H 10 round mag.

    The goods:
    30 rounds shot today, no problems from the gun or the mag. D&H 10 round mag had very sharp feed lips when I got it, i ran a file on the inside of the lips and knocked the bur off. It does in fact hold and feed 10 rounds, I didn't try to stuff 11 in.

    The not so goods: The best I could do today was just under 4 inch groups with the scope at 7X. My accuracy with Fed Fusion is adequate for what I am using this upper for: Inside 100 yd shots at deer sized game. I will get some Hornady SST and a few other hunting type loads to try to see if I can reduce group size.

    Overall I am OK with the accuracy with Fusion for what I bought the upper for. I would like a 1 MOA gun, but this will work for now.
    A better shooter could prob. get better results, but I only shoot so good: standing on one leg, weak hand strong eye, with my back to the target, using a mirror!

    Mark

    Update 1/9/19

    I put a Primary Arms 1X6 ACSS scope in a PA mount on, and removed the muzzle break which was torqued TIGHT. I put a thread protector on and adjusted the gas block to bolt hold open with Wolf Mil Classic.

    Yesterday the weather was clear and about 60 deg, wind was 10-15 knots crossing the range.
    I shot 25 rounds of Wolf at 100 Yd, prone on a sandbag rest. I need to get a rear bag to really stabilize myself. Not unhappy with a 5.5 inch group, it would have been half the size but the fliers opened it up.

    Today the weather was 20 deg cooler and still windy. Prone with a sandbag at 100 Yd.

    I tried Fusion, ELD, and SST with interesting results.

    Fusion and ELD gave me 1 3/4 inch 5 shot groups. I only shot 5 rounds of each. My first Fusion groups were 3 to 4 inches, so a steadier rest, some break in rounds, a non rimfire scope, removing a very tight muzzle break, and adjusting the gas block may have helped.

    The SST didn't give me a very good group it was 2 3/4 inch.

    I think out of curosity I will remove the barrel and true the receiver face, polish the feed ramps, and re-torque the barrel. I am curious to see if it gives me a vast improvement in group sizes, and I've never assembled an upper so I will get practice.

    Mark
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    Last edited by CWOZ; 01-09-2019, 08:38 PM. Reason: Updating range report 1/9/19
  • VASCAR2
    Chieftain
    • Mar 2011
    • 6339

    #2
    Thanks for the report Mark!

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    • Phalanx
      Unwashed
      • Apr 2018
      • 17

      #3
      Did you get the stainless barrel or the nitride?

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      • RubberDucky
        Unwashed
        • Nov 2018
        • 12

        #4
        Good deal. Looking forward to an accuracy report.
        Last edited by RubberDucky; 11-15-2018, 01:56 PM.

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        • Tacoma21
          Unwashed
          • Nov 2018
          • 19

          #5
          Hmmm...

          Where I deer hunt, I can only use a shotgun or legal handgun. A 12" PSA would technically be a legal handgun so...

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          • CWOZ
            Bloodstained
            • Nov 2018
            • 48

            #6
            Originally posted by Phalanx View Post
            Did you get the stainless barrel or the nitride?
            I got the nitride.

            I am really looking forward to a decent warmer day to actually try to see what the accuracy really is. I was a rotten day to be trying to do any good shooting.

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            • CWOZ
              Bloodstained
              • Nov 2018
              • 48

              #7
              Originally posted by Tacoma21 View Post
              Hmmm...

              Where I deer hunt, I can only use a shotgun or legal handgun. A 12" PSA would technically be a legal handgun so...
              I know ATF says it is a pistol, but you may have to try very hard to convince a game warden it is a pistol! Can you use a Contender with a short barrel chambered in a rifle caliber?

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              • Tacoma21
                Unwashed
                • Nov 2018
                • 19

                #8
                Contenders are good-to-go. I've got an email in to the DNR for their interpretation. If they give the okay, that email and a copy of the pistol kit form will go with me on next years hunt.

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                • Glockpride
                  Warrior
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 103

                  #9
                  Sweet, CWOZ! I love it when a plan comes together. Waiting on Black Friday to grab an optic and then I’ll site mine in.
                  Hopefully, we can use it to get a deer this year.

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                  • Tacoma21
                    Unwashed
                    • Nov 2018
                    • 19

                    #10
                    CWOZ,

                    What is the overall length of the pistol? Just got back an email from DNR and the only surprise is that the overall length cannot exceed 26" to be a legal handgun for hunting.

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                    • CWOZ
                      Bloodstained
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 48

                      #11
                      Tacoma, what state/location are you hunting?

                      GP: I will be snooping deals too for the new toy.
                      I know I need lots more bullets, it's own optic rather than a borrowed rimfire scope, a few more magazines to put the newly acquired bullets in.
                      Always something...

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                      • CWOZ
                        Bloodstained
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 48

                        #12
                        Tacoma, It is sitting on the deer stand, I will measure this evening.

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                        • Tacoma21
                          Unwashed
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 19

                          #13
                          Thanks.

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                          • depletedyourcranium
                            Warrior
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 132

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tacoma21 View Post
                            CWOZ,

                            What is the overall length of the pistol? Just got back an email from DNR and the only surprise is that the overall length cannot exceed 26" to be a legal handgun for hunting.
                            Mine measured 26.25 inches from the end of the receiver tube that came with the SBA3 brace to the end of the muzzle, not counting the flash hider. If you're using something with a shorter tube, it might get you under 26. I think the tube that comes with the SBA3 is just a regular carbine length tube.

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                            • Tacoma21
                              Unwashed
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 19

                              #15
                              Originally posted by depletedyourcranium View Post
                              Mine measured 26.25 inches from the end of the receiver tube that came with the SBA3 brace to the end of the muzzle, not counting the flash hider. If you're using something with a shorter tube, it might get you under 26. I think the tube that comes with the SBA3 is just a regular carbine length tube.
                              That's why I asked. Does anyone have a Shockwave Blade that can measure?

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