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  • pinetreebbs
    Warrior
    • Nov 2013
    • 184

    #16
    I can shoot a heavy trigger as long as it is constant, I do prefer a lighter trigger.

    I too tried several special AR triggers, including drop in triggers. I would like to have the cash back that I spent on them once I tried a La Rue MBT trigger.

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    • HickLife
      Bloodstained
      • Dec 2018
      • 67

      #17
      A trigger isn't important to me at all honestly. Unless you have trigger that makes you strain and shake when trying to pull it (like a recurring dream I have) then you don't need a different one. I have several I end triggers like geissele and I also have several mil-spec ones that I can shoot just as well. Is it nice to have a light crisp trigger pull? Of course. Is it fun to tinker and swap thing out? Definitely. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. I say before anyone buys a new fancy trigger they need to take the same amount of money they would spend on that, put it into ammo and just work the fundamentals with it. Dry fire is even better too cause it's free. For one the trigger might smooth out a little after a couple thousand reps and for two you will get that muscle memory down so that you don't really think about the trigger pull and just focus on maintaining proper target alignment. That's just my 2 cents

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      • brian y
        Warrior
        • Dec 2016
        • 251

        #18
        Originally posted by Kswhitetails View Post
        If the barrel is the heart of a firearm, the trigger is the CNS. I'd spend money on both of these first on any build list. Thankfully, Mark LaRue gets it, and leaves room in my budget for other nicer parts thanks to his $89 dollar MBT2S's. I really can't say enough good about them. I'm putting a flat bow 2s in my BCM carbine as soon as I see one.
        Last edited by brian y; 06-28-2019, 03:45 PM.
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        • Labrat198
          Warrior
          • Nov 2018
          • 137

          #19
          Having a reliable trigger is important.

          My personal feeling is that you should have a trigger that makes you feel comfortable and enjoy shooting. I picked up a MBT for my build and honestly my ability to shoot tight groups didn't really change much at all over the Mil-Spec trigger.

          What it did do is give me a trigger that I enjoyed using, which got me to the range more, which improved my groups. I also can't blame the trigger when I know it can do a better job than I can.

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          • Kswhitetails
            Chieftain
            • Oct 2016
            • 1914

            #20
            Another thought for you FL - when I started building and shooting ARs, I was ignorant to what a trigger was. Especially in an AR. After reading the abundant posts on the subject, I was intrigued. So, after buying an MBT for I think it was 199, (at that time if you "wanted one now, this was the price I was sold. The trigger makes so much more difference than almost anything else you can do.
            Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.

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            • OpFor1
              Warrior
              • Jan 2019
              • 110

              #21
              I agree with whomever said the trigger is the CNS of the rifle. It is the one thing we can control; our link to the mechanical system that does everything else. A trigger doesn't have to be measured in ounces to be good, but all things concerning a trigger are important. Weight of pull, length of pull, single or two stage, stack before the break, overtravel and reset just off the top of my head. I obsess over my hunting triggers because they are so important to making a responsible shot on game. That is not to say that what I like in a trigger matters to anyone else, but those are my thoughts.

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              • Djgrendel
                Warrior
                • Feb 2016
                • 200

                #22
                For the 80 or so dollars the mbt is a great value. It's not the best, but it is pretty dang impressive at that price. I'll own at least another.
                Yard work is not an excuse!

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                • mongoosesnipe
                  Chieftain
                  • May 2012
                  • 1142

                  #23
                  a good trigger pull is very important to me but not as important as a reliable trigger as far as "premium" triggers i have 3 that i regularly use i have a geissele high speed sprung dmr (i havent gauged it but i think its around 3.5 i have the NM springs for it but they were a bit light for my taste in a semi auto) i have a ke arms slt-1 which is a fantastic single stage trigger (ke states that it can have light strikes with some eastern block 7.62x39 surplus but wolf is 100% so i would say thats pretty good) and a larue mbt

                  of the 3 i like the geissele high speed dmr best for precision work and testing the accuracy of new builds, the ke slt-1 is a go fast trigger its a great trigger for that but if you are not ready it can bump on you the pull and reset are so short, the larue is a great trigger for the money and if you put it against the geissele high speed dmr i like the geissele high speed dmr better but its a target trigger with adjustment screws compared to a simple just works trigger i have never had the geissele come out of adjustment but its a thing that can go wrong comparing it to a geissele ssa which is a fair comparison i think the geissele feels a little better but would hate to live on the difference and certainly wouldn't be able to discern a difference under stress so at $82 its kind of become the standard for trigger upgrades in my builds most of which start life with a basic lpk trigger after i test them with the geissele high speed dmr many spend their lives with generic 6# triggers and get switched to a precision lower if i am doing something that necessitates a better trigger
                  Punctuation is for the weak....

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                  • LRRPF52
                    Super Moderator
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 9027

                    #24
                    Reduced power hammer springs are notorious for failure to activate primers, especially in the colder months.

                    I try to stay away from them for that reason.

                    LaRue MBT-2S 2-stage trigger is hard to beat for the coin.
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                    • FLshooter
                      Chieftain
                      • Jun 2019
                      • 1380

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LRRPF52 View Post
                      Reduced power hammer springs are notorious for failure to activate primers, especially in the colder months.

                      I try to stay away from them for that reason.

                      LaRue MBT-2S 2-stage trigger is hard to beat for the coin.
                      Although I have not had a problem yet.But,I figured that much.The primer strike feels too light.
                      As I mentioned,it does feel andshoot good.But,I will eventually swap it out with a drop in anyway.I am a tinkerer.

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                      • ErikS
                        Warrior
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 138

                        #26
                        All my ARs have SD-E triggers. A good trigger makes for a rifle that is much easier to shoot well.
                        #shareyourspare

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                        • PGW Steve
                          Bloodstained
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 60

                          #27
                          I've got a Trigger Tech Adaptable in a .223, then they came out with a Diamond, that one is in my Grendel. I do a lot with bolt guns, so the single stage feel wasn't an issue for me, it breaks like a glass rod and goes down to 1.5 pounds. I've got it a bit over 2 which is where I shoot most of my bolts anyway.

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                          • OneHitWonder
                            Bloodstained
                            • Dec 2018
                            • 87

                            #28
                            Originally posted by HickLife View Post
                            A trigger isn't important to me at all honestly. Unless you have trigger that makes you strain and shake when trying to pull it (like a recurring dream I have) then you don't need a different one. I have several I end triggers like geissele and I also have several mil-spec ones that I can shoot just as well. Is it nice to have a light crisp trigger pull? Of course. Is it fun to tinker and swap thing out? Definitely. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. I say before anyone buys a new fancy trigger they need to take the same amount of money they would spend on that, put it into ammo and just work the fundamentals with it. Dry fire is even better too cause it's free. For one the trigger might smooth out a little after a couple thousand reps and for two you will get that muscle memory down so that you don't really think about the trigger pull and just focus on maintaining proper target alignment. That's just my 2 cents

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                            • Warlock
                              Bloodstained
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 49

                              #29
                              I am one of "those" people that doesn't care how heavy a trigger pull is but, if the trigger moves under pressure and the weapon doesn't fire, I completely fall apart.

                              At that point, I know I must reset and re-try the shot. If I just muscle through the trigger I will most likely flinch and then miss my shot.

                              I guess I am a trigger princess.
                              You only think you're alone

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                              • 1Shot
                                Warrior
                                • Feb 2018
                                • 781

                                #30
                                The trigger is very important to me. With my ARs I want between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 lb that is consistent and crisp. I have one CMC 2.5 drop in that is great but I have 4 POF 3.5 drop in that are also great. I got the POFs on sale for under $100 and they all run between 3 and 3.5 lbs and break like glass. The one that runs 3 lbs had a little gritty feel out of the box. I took it apart and polished the engagements with one pass on each engagement with some crocus cloth and then using a Q-tip with Mother's mag wheel polish I gave it a good polish. Breaks like glass at 3 lbs now. On my bolt guns I like 2.5 lb. I can feel my finger on the trigger but just a little squeeze BOOM. 2lb is too light for me for a hunting rifle. I can't feel my finger on the trigger before it goes boom. I have one bolt rifle, Ruger 77 tang safety, that I got in an estate sale with a 1.5 lb trigger. The fellow was a bench rest target shooter as well as one that liked to work with wild cat calibers. I don't know why he would have had built a hunter class bench rifle on a Ruger 77 but he did. According to the information in his records, and he documented most everything, this rifle started out as a 26" varmint barrel 220 Swift. The barrel was removed and re-bored to 30 cal. with a 1 n 14 twist, chamber end cut and redone and chambered in 30x47 cal. ending up with a 24" barrel. This is the old 300 Savage case with the shoulder pushed back 10 thousands inch but left the same over all length. Back in the 80/90s this was THE hunter class bench rest caliber. This fellow intended to shoot cast bullets in this rifle. It had only been fired about 50 times with some testing loads when he has a heart attack and dies. This rifle is in the factory wood stock that has been fully bedded in bisinite (SP?) and has a Canjar trigger that is 1.5 lbs. This rifle is UNBELEAVABLY ACCURATE. But I have to really be careful shooting it because of the light trigger. I had not shot it for a while until a couple weeks ago and with the first shot it went off before I was ready. I got a bunch of cases, loading dies and document folder and it had a Lyman 12 power target scope mounted on it CHEAP because you had to be a hand loader to even shoot it and there was no factory backed load data. It also took his wife 10 years after his death to start to sale off his stuff because she found out she had cancer and would not live long. A friend of mine helped her sale all his shooting stuff of which there was a Dodge max van packed like a can of sardines full. I bought some other stuff.

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