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  • Bigs28
    Chieftain
    • Feb 2016
    • 1786

    What cleaning rod/bore guide etc.

    Ive always used random screw together cleaning rods and bore snakes. Doing some reading, I'm thinking i need a single piece rod and bore guide. Looking for any recommendations on what you guys use in the ar that is not what i already have.

    Thanks
  • Popeye212
    Chieftain
    • Jan 2018
    • 1610

    #2
    Tipton one piece rod and and a bore guide from Brownells.

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    • LR1955
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2011
      • 3390

      #3
      Originally posted by Bigs28 View Post
      Ive always used random screw together cleaning rods and bore snakes. Doing some reading, I'm thinking i need a single piece rod and bore guide. Looking for any recommendations on what you guys use in the ar that is not what i already have.

      Thanks
      B28:

      You only got one more choice. One piece rod and wrap around jag. I use Parker Hale rods and jags but I doubt there is much of a difference in outcome if you use some other brand. Get one that is suitable for 6.5 mm. Avoid one size fits all as if you use a 5.56 rod in a 6.5 mm bore, you will eventually bend the rod.

      Bore guides work but I doubt a guy will ruin a barrel by not using one. Does make things easier if the guide has a solvent cut out. One piece guide that fits snugly into the receiver is better than a skinny one that uses a rod to hold it in place.

      LR55

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      • Growler
        Warrior
        • Jan 2019
        • 171

        #4
        LR1955:

        I’ve never found a one size 0.26” / 6.5mm cleaning rod.
        All my google-fu can drum up are sized and marketed for a range such as .22 - .260.

        I’ll grant you, I can break just about anything if I get western enough; but how will 36 or so thousandths of extra rod clearance lead to a bent rod?

        I’m asking, because I am getting ready to do some JB bore paste lapping. This is about a 5 on the 1-10 western scale.

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        • FRB6.5
          Warrior
          • Oct 2018
          • 415

          #5
          One FYI on bore guides. Dewey claims their 6.8 is usable on 6.5 Grendel, it is NOT, it will not even enter the chamber let alone seal it. The all white Delrin 6.5 Grendel one from Sinclair (and now Brownell's) works, I believe it is actually made by Possum Hollow.

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          • Bigs28
            Chieftain
            • Feb 2016
            • 1786

            #6
            I ordered from brownells

            749-003-061MB
            AR-15 Bore Guide 6.5 Grendel/PPC
            Mfr Part: 003990220

            And

            Since 1939, Brownells has been the leader in Gunsmithing Parts & Tools, Gun Parts for DIYers, Ammunition, Firearms, and More!



            Both say 6.5g specific. Going to the range tomorrow so i will get to use it then.

            Thanks for the input.

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            • LR1955
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2011
              • 3390

              #7
              Originally posted by Growler View Post
              LR1955:

              I’ve never found a one size 0.26” / 6.5mm cleaning rod.
              All my google-fu can drum up are sized and marketed for a range such as .22 - .260.

              I’ll grant you, I can break just about anything if I get western enough; but how will 36 or so thousandths of extra rod clearance lead to a bent rod?

              I’m asking, because I am getting ready to do some JB bore paste lapping. This is about a 5 on the 1-10 western scale.
              Growler:

              If you use too tight a patch, it can get stuck just inside the barrel. You have one choice -- use enough force to push it completely through the barrel. So you have most of the rod totally unsupported and the thinner rods will probably bend. I have a couple of .22 cal rods that are bent from just that situation. Sure, you can bend thicker ones too but having one that is made for the caliber normally is stiff enough to take some abuse.

              LR55

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              • FLshooter
                Chieftain
                • Jun 2019
                • 1380

                #8
                I prefer the Tipton 1 piece over Dewy’s.And I use a Tipton universal bore guide.
                Only thing about a Tipton rod is they are carbon fiber.They will break if you apply gorilla force.If your patch gets stuck,try getting it back through from the other end.
                Dewy rods are stainless steel/nylon coated.They can bend,but won’t break.Tipton is either straight or broken.
                Both work great.Matter of preference.I own both.

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                • ARErector
                  Bloodstained
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 42

                  #9
                  Has anyone found a rod specifically for 6.5 mm? Just like Growler, I can only find .22-.26 rods. Some specifically list 6.5 in the description, but also list that they fit .22, so they are the thinner rod.

                  Has anyone tried a .270 rod in the 6.5? Midway's site lists the Tipton Deluxe 1-Piece Cleaning Rod Carbon Fiber 27-45 caliber rod diameter as .250". I'm not sure how far the lands of the rifling stick out into the barrel. I'm guessing it won't fit, or they would list it as fitting 6.5mm.

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                  • Kswhitetails
                    Chieftain
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1914

                    #10
                    If I was going to lap a barrel, I'd opt for a different approach.

                    https://otistec.com/260cal-264cal-6-5mm-rifle-ripcord/ and the 6.5 Grendel bore guide Growler posted above.

                    Slather the first 4-6 inches in lapping compound, and then 4-6 inches in CLP. Pull it through. No fears about any of the above issues, especially when paired with their cleaning cable to pull it through. You'll just want to make sure you have a good way to anchor your rifle. Park your truck on it. Good to go.
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                    • bfk4lyfe
                      Bloodstained
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 42

                      #11
                      +1 on the Tipton. Amazon seems to carry all their products and you can have it tomorrow if you need it. Its good quality, I can break anything and I haven't broken any of my Tipton stuff.

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                      • centerfire
                        Warrior
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 681

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ARErector View Post
                        Has anyone found a rod specifically for 6.5 mm? Just like Growler, I can only find .22-.26 rods. Some specifically list 6.5 in the description, but also list that they fit .22, so they are the thinner rod.

                        Has anyone tried a .270 rod in the 6.5? Midway's site lists the Tipton Deluxe 1-Piece Cleaning Rod Carbon Fiber 27-45 caliber rod diameter as .250". I'm not sure how far the lands of the rifling stick out into the barrel. I'm guessing it won't fit, or they would list it as fitting 6.5mm.
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                        • ARErector
                          Bloodstained
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 42

                          #13
                          Thanks! That's the first I've seen.

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                          • centerfire
                            Warrior
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 681

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ARErector View Post
                            Thanks! That's the first I've seen.
                            Meh, I use a 22 Dewey cleaning rod in the Grendel. I can't imagine bending a cleaning rod, there's shouldn't be that much pressure. Wrap a 22 or 6mm patch around a bore brush instead of a jag with tight patches.

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                            • ARErector
                              Bloodstained
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 42

                              #15
                              I've just been using a .22 stainless one piece rod so far. I'd like to get a carbon fiber one though.

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