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  • JCSC
    Warrior
    • Sep 2019
    • 105

    Barrel shim orientation

    If required to shim for barrel nut orientation or hand guard, is the preference to slit the round shim and insert between the upper receiver face and barrel extension or.... slide it on the barrel prior to nut installation.

    The only time I did this, I used the latter method. I put some grease on the shim and tightened up to spec.
    Last edited by JCSC; 09-13-2019, 06:58 PM. Reason: Mistake
  • Kswhitetails
    Chieftain
    • Oct 2016
    • 1914

    #2
    If it were me, I'd bed the barrel, and place the shims on the outside of the shoulder of the extension. If at all possible, I would stray from this type of union. I've never liked shims in this circumstance, though thousands of fellow builders have used them to great effect. Good luck.
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    • JCSC
      Warrior
      • Sep 2019
      • 105

      #3
      Thanks. I felt they should not be between the upper and barrel, although I saw it done on YouTube.

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      • FRB6.5
        Warrior
        • Oct 2018
        • 415

        #4
        Placing shims between the receiver and extension has the potential to change headspace. The proper location is between the extension and barrel nut.

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        • ARErector
          Bloodstained
          • Sep 2019
          • 42

          #5
          I have always put them between the barrel and nut. I would think that messing with spacing between the barrel and upper is a bad idea. Until now I'd never even considered it would be done that way.

          I do like the handguards that don't use them. They are much simpler to put together.

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          • JCSC
            Warrior
            • Sep 2019
            • 105

            #6
            Originally posted by FRB6.5 View Post
            Placing shims between the receiver and extension has the potential to change headspace. The proper location is between the extension and barrel nut.
            I thought this may change headspace, but I didn?t want to bother asking the question. I saw some folks build it up this way on line.

            Proves you can?t always trust what you see.

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            • FRB6.5
              Warrior
              • Oct 2018
              • 415

              #7
              Originally posted by JCSC View Post
              I thought this may change headspace, but I didn?t want to bother asking the question. I saw some folks build it up this way on line.

              Proves you can?t always trust what you see.
              If you noticed one of the more easy to find youtube videos showing that method has comments disabled.

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              • Mad Charlie
                Warrior
                • May 2017
                • 827

                #8
                I don't cut shims, for AR barrel nuts or M1a gas cylinders.

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                • A5BLASTER
                  Chieftain
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 6192

                  #9
                  I think I would find a diffrent handguard to use that didn't need shims to time the barrel nut and gas tube.

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                  • Lastrites
                    Warrior
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 678

                    #10
                    Sometimes just using a different barrel nut resolves the issue.

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                    • LRRPF52
                      Super Moderator
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8635

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JCSC View Post
                      If required to shim for barrel nut orientation or hand guard, is the preference to slit the round shim and insert between the upper receiver face and barrel extension or.... slide it on the barrel prior to nut installation.

                      The only time I did this, I used the latter method. I put some grease on the shim and tightened up to spec.
                      If you're talking about flat shims that come with some of the handguards out there, you install the barrel into the upper, then slide the shim over the barrel up against the face of the barrel extension flange. Then the barrel nut goes on and torques against the shim.
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                      • Mad Charlie
                        Warrior
                        • May 2017
                        • 827

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JCSC View Post
                        Thanks. I felt they should not be between the upper and barrel, although I saw it done on YouTube.
                        There is a shi% ton of misinformation on you tube, I always try to cross reference anything I look up on you tube.

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