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I have two 6.5 Grendels from PSA. One is a carbine gas based one, and one is a 20" rifle configuration. Both have their SS barrels and BCG's (which I suspect are Toolcraft OEM'd BCG's but don't have any basis for that other than physical appearance, and the fact that PSA does not stock the individual parts of it, but rather only complete BCG's). I run E-Lander mags.
Reliability of both has been excellent. These guns don't jam. But there are nuances.
-I have had one extracter break already while shooting steel (to which PSA warranty replaced the entire BCG).
-Switching from steel to brass back and forth doesn't seem to affect reliability at all
-The Elander magazines are reliable, but for whatever reason, a full Elander can have oddities, and sometimes don't like to fully strip and close upon initial loading. I guess the force up against the magazine lips on that first round is a bit high. Once loaded and firing though, they never jam on my PSA's. The bigger oddity with ELanders is that as they have aged, they fit tighter and tighter in the mag-well now. It takes a bit of force to insert one into the well-itself now (they seat fine); and drop-free is a long-gone thing of the past. They do this is all my AR mag-wells, regardless of brand. But, they work so I don't worry about it.
-Accuracy of the guns isn't that great. They tend to be 1.5 MOA on a great day, and 2+ MOA nominally.
-That said, they seem to like Wolf Ammo quite a bit, and shoot it in that 1.5-2 MOA range as well.
-They seem to tighten up as they age. The carbine one has about 1500 rounds through it, and it's shooting 1.5 MOA more accross the board - and actually just shot Wolf ammo at about 1.2 MOA in multi stings. The Wolf steel outshot all the brass ammo in fact, everything from 90's, to 129's, to 120's - the 100 gr Wolf Steel outshot. That doesn't really make any sense to me.
-My 20" only has 1000 rounds through it, and just yesterday gave me a nominal 2 MOA perfromance. I just ordered one of BFT's group buy 20" BBLs.
-PSA is enamoured with that goofy A2 barrel profile. Our forum barrel profile to my eye is a WAY better investement of metal in the right places. That said, the PSA A2 BBL, with a 6.5 mm dia hole through it, IS a remarkably light barrel - particularly their 20". It was a pleasant hunting experience. That said, 2 MOA means a 4" group at 200 yards. If going for a high neck shot, that can be a clean miss.
-I suspect running Wolf Steel in a PSA BBL actually helps, as I thikn this erodes and smooth the barrel out with time; which is why I think accuracy is actually improving a little with age. While I have a Monster BBL on order now, I may go ahead and just pound a few hundred rounds of Wolf Steel at gongs and have fun, just to see how that goes.
Would I buy PSA again? Actually that's a strong yes - for the money it's a Hell of a lot of gun, that's well laid out. And they work. They are quite reliable as well, and they do stand behind it. If I were to call and say the accuracy is not what I want, they'd replace it for me. And the accuracy is decent; with some people getting better draw than others. But I suspect getting a PSA and then a Monster Team barrel here, is likely the best of both worlds.
Oh, and on my 20", I picked up one of the Primary Arms GLx 2-10 scopes, for about $400. That's was a total steel, and thanks to whoever posted that deal here in the forums. That's a $1000 quality scope, and it's about the only FFP scope I've ever seen that actually WORKS at the lowest power (most FFP reticle just disappear at the minimum power, making the posted magnification range misleading, and just don't work at their lowest power settings - this one actually does work - love it!)
Just some input from one shooter.
Reliability of both has been excellent. These guns don't jam. But there are nuances.
-I have had one extracter break already while shooting steel (to which PSA warranty replaced the entire BCG).
-Switching from steel to brass back and forth doesn't seem to affect reliability at all
-The Elander magazines are reliable, but for whatever reason, a full Elander can have oddities, and sometimes don't like to fully strip and close upon initial loading. I guess the force up against the magazine lips on that first round is a bit high. Once loaded and firing though, they never jam on my PSA's. The bigger oddity with ELanders is that as they have aged, they fit tighter and tighter in the mag-well now. It takes a bit of force to insert one into the well-itself now (they seat fine); and drop-free is a long-gone thing of the past. They do this is all my AR mag-wells, regardless of brand. But, they work so I don't worry about it.
-Accuracy of the guns isn't that great. They tend to be 1.5 MOA on a great day, and 2+ MOA nominally.
-That said, they seem to like Wolf Ammo quite a bit, and shoot it in that 1.5-2 MOA range as well.
-They seem to tighten up as they age. The carbine one has about 1500 rounds through it, and it's shooting 1.5 MOA more accross the board - and actually just shot Wolf ammo at about 1.2 MOA in multi stings. The Wolf steel outshot all the brass ammo in fact, everything from 90's, to 129's, to 120's - the 100 gr Wolf Steel outshot. That doesn't really make any sense to me.
-My 20" only has 1000 rounds through it, and just yesterday gave me a nominal 2 MOA perfromance. I just ordered one of BFT's group buy 20" BBLs.
-PSA is enamoured with that goofy A2 barrel profile. Our forum barrel profile to my eye is a WAY better investement of metal in the right places. That said, the PSA A2 BBL, with a 6.5 mm dia hole through it, IS a remarkably light barrel - particularly their 20". It was a pleasant hunting experience. That said, 2 MOA means a 4" group at 200 yards. If going for a high neck shot, that can be a clean miss.
-I suspect running Wolf Steel in a PSA BBL actually helps, as I thikn this erodes and smooth the barrel out with time; which is why I think accuracy is actually improving a little with age. While I have a Monster BBL on order now, I may go ahead and just pound a few hundred rounds of Wolf Steel at gongs and have fun, just to see how that goes.
Would I buy PSA again? Actually that's a strong yes - for the money it's a Hell of a lot of gun, that's well laid out. And they work. They are quite reliable as well, and they do stand behind it. If I were to call and say the accuracy is not what I want, they'd replace it for me. And the accuracy is decent; with some people getting better draw than others. But I suspect getting a PSA and then a Monster Team barrel here, is likely the best of both worlds.
Oh, and on my 20", I picked up one of the Primary Arms GLx 2-10 scopes, for about $400. That's was a total steel, and thanks to whoever posted that deal here in the forums. That's a $1000 quality scope, and it's about the only FFP scope I've ever seen that actually WORKS at the lowest power (most FFP reticle just disappear at the minimum power, making the posted magnification range misleading, and just don't work at their lowest power settings - this one actually does work - love it!)
Just some input from one shooter.
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