Are all Grendel extractors interchangeable?

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  • Bronsonburner
    Warrior
    • Dec 2018
    • 107

    Are all Grendel extractors interchangeable?

    Extractor in my PSA type II bolt broke the other day at the range. Has about 800 rounds on it. Am I OK to order any other type II extractor and expect a drop in fit? Thanks in advance.
  • lazyengineer
    Chieftain
    • Feb 2019
    • 1359

    #2
    I did.

    In theory.... mostly yes. Sort of. Others will be able to say better than me, but for a time there were two standards for Grendel bolt and chamber related stuff; though it seemed to have settled on just one standard a long time ago, so unless you're getting used or really-old-stock, then yea, it probably will work.

    For me, I had a PSA one snap. It was interesting to see just how paper-thin the metal is under the groove, the only thing really holding the extractor together at Grendel dimensions, is the tab thing where a bolt-lug would otherwise be. PSA ultimately warrentteed me an entire replacement BCG, but in the meantime, I replaced the extractor with a Black Rifle Arms one, that seemed cost effective. Been running that one ever since, seems to be working fine.

    I did pick up a few Red X arms ones as emergency ones that I tape inside my pistol grip; But I can't say I recommend them. Some of the more experienced guys here who know a lot more than me, very actively DON"T recommend them.
    I do note the RedX ones don't have the inside corners relieved, which apparently causes problems, so I touched those points up with a precision file. No idea if they actually work; I just picked them up as very low-cost emergency field repair units.
    4x P100

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    • grayfox
      Chieftain
      • Jan 2017
      • 4561

      #3
      In general yes, a type 2 (0.136 bolt face depth) for a type 2. There is a thinner-depth extractor (0.125 face depth) (or type 1 as they are called), this one is a no-no except for rifles whose chambers are cut for it.
      Now I say in general b/c of course mfg methods and QC can differ. I believe Mark from PF has good extractors.
      Wherever you settle, also consider having one complete bolt in hand as a spare for such events. Something's gonna break.
      BFT has his six5arms in the vendor area and he sells probably the dynamite standard bolt, great price, quality, go look there and pick up your spare.
      "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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      • A5BLASTER
        Chieftain
        • Mar 2015
        • 6192

        #4
        Originally posted by Bronsonburner View Post
        Extractor in my PSA type II bolt broke the other day at the range. Has about 800 rounds on it. Am I OK to order any other type II extractor and expect a drop in fit? Thanks in advance.
        The best to get is the one sold by Alexander arms.

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        • Bronsonburner
          Warrior
          • Dec 2018
          • 107

          #5
          Thanks for the advice. Will try to get a few AA ones.

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          • grayfox
            Chieftain
            • Jan 2017
            • 4561

            #6
            One more helpful thing. Some new extractors may need to have their little tooth-corners smoothed down -- just a tad! -- to prevent gouging into the brass at extraction. You'll know if you see the effects.
            "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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            • Mesa1978
              Warrior
              • May 2015
              • 255

              #7
              Originally posted by A5BLASTER View Post
              The best to get is the one sold by Alexander arms.
              +1

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              • BluntForceTrauma
                Administrator
                • Feb 2011
                • 3923

                #8
                Originally posted by A5BLASTER View Post
                The best to get is the one sold by Alexander arms.
                I'm in the awkward position of tooting my own horn here....

                My MONSTER bolts and the bolts of Alexander Arms are made by the same manufacturer. Check the details of the machining. See that little semi-circle groove just behind each lug? The same.

                My bolts are nitrided. The AA bolt is phosphated.

                Compare prices. I take care of my fellow Horde members, no matter how Vile and Unwashed. 'Nuff sed.
                :: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

                :: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::

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                • VASCAR2
                  Chieftain
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 6339

                  #9
                  Last edited by VASCAR2; 04-16-2020, 02:38 AM.

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                  • A5BLASTER
                    Chieftain
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 6192

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BluntForceTrauma View Post
                    I'm in the awkward position of tooting my own horn here....

                    My MONSTER bolts and the bolts of Alexander Arms are made by the same manufacturer. Check the details of the machining. See that little semi-circle groove just behind each lug? The same.

                    My bolts are nitrided. The AA bolt is phosphated.

                    Compare prices. I take care of my fellow Horde members, no matter how Vile and Unwashed. 'Nuff sed.
                    Yes sir your bolts are great. I have several. But the OP was looking for just an extractor not the whole bolt. So I didn't think too include the sixfive bolts.

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                    • BluntForceTrauma
                      Administrator
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3923

                      #11
                      For just an extractor, the Black Rifle Arms and the AA extractors are the same. Can't speak to the OP's PSA bolt, however. If it was MY money, I'd risk it on the theory they can't be THAT different.
                      :: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

                      :: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::

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                      • FRB6.5
                        Warrior
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 415

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BluntForceTrauma View Post
                        I'm in the awkward position of tooting my own horn here....

                        My MONSTER bolts and the bolts of Alexander Arms are made by the same manufacturer. Check the details of the machining. See that little semi-circle groove just behind each lug? The same.

                        My bolts are nitrided. The AA bolt is phosphated.

                        Compare prices. I take care of my fellow Horde members, no matter how Vile and Unwashed. 'Nuff sed.
                        I wish there was a like feature for the forums +1

                        File that sharp corner off in the extractor channel and your bolts are perfect.

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                        • BluntForceTrauma
                          Administrator
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 3923

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FRB6.5 View Post
                          I wish there was a like feature for the forums +1. File that sharp corner off in the extractor channel and your bolts are perfect.
                          You know, that IS a real issue I gotta bring up with the mfr.
                          :: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

                          :: I Drank the Water :: Revelation 21:6 ::

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                          • Bronz
                            Bloodstained
                            • Sep 2018
                            • 64

                            #14
                            Originally posted by grayfox View Post
                            One more helpful thing. Some new extractors may need to have their little tooth-corners smoothed down -- just a tad! -- to prevent gouging into the brass at extraction. You'll know if you see the effects.
                            Yes I have seen this.

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                            • southpaw
                              Bloodstained
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 55

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BluntForceTrauma View Post
                              You know, that IS a real issue I gotta bring up with the mfr.
                              I had this issue with a new Monster bolt. After fixing the extractor it was GTG

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