6.5G AK from Lee Armory

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This came out on Military Arms Channel

https://www.leearmory.com/catalog/lee-armory-grendel-od47/

TLDR $1700, with 300 OCCAM rail and $90 MD

[KarlHungus]

$1700? That seems like a lot of money for a 2-4 MOA rifle. It's cool I guess, and maybe the AK is a more reliable platform for this caliber, but I'm gonna pass.
I also don't get the logic of going with an 18" barrel on a gun that prints 3" groups. I think a 16" or even a pistol version would be a more practical build. It's nice to see more companies building rifles in this caliber though.

[A5BLASTER]

Wait, He said it uses a green mountain barrel?

BFT, I found out why your barrel supply is drying up for a few months, looks like they are filling a diffrent contract first.

[KarlHungus]

Wait, He said it uses a green mountain barrel?

BFT, I found out why your barrel supply is drying up for a few months, looks like they are filling a diffrent contract first.

I missed that part. I did see where he shot for accuracy. At 50 yards, with premium ammo, he was getting 1.2" to 1.3" 5 shot groups. With the cheaper Wolf stuff, it opened up to 2.8". So between 2.4 and 5.6 MOA. Maybe he's a poor shot, or had an off day, but I wouldn't be happy with that for $1700 bucks. Especially since I mainly shoot the cheaper Wolf. Then again I'm an accuracy snob, and for most applications that's good enough.

I'm somewhat surprised by the performance, given that it uses a Green Mountain barrel.

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$1700? That seems like a lot of money for a 2-4 MOA rifle. It's cool I guess, and maybe the AK is a more reliable platform for this caliber, but I'm gonna pass.
I also don't get the logic of going with an 18" barrel on a gun that prints 3" groups. I think a 16" or even a pistol version would be a more practical build. It's nice to see more companies building rifles in this caliber though.

Yeah, pretty shabby accuracy, but par for an AK?

[KarlHungus]

Yeah, pretty shabby accuracy, but par for an AK?

I guess. Doubt it's a barrel issue, Green Mountain is usually legit. Then again, I got better groups with shittier ammo with my Vector AK (since sold, which I regret).

[KarlHungus]

Looking again, it might be an issue with that rail setup. Yes, it's free floated, but the optic is attached to the handguard. It's probably going to flex a bit, especially as the weapon heats up. I also don't understand why you would want to fire a long range cartridge out of an 18" barrel and only have options for a red dot. A side mount with this set up makes a lot more sense.
The longer I look at it, the less appealing it becomes. Long, heavy, somewhat inaccurate, no option for magnified optics, and a $1700 price tag. Thanks for posting the video though, it's interesting.

[A5BLASTER]

Looking again, it might be an issue with that rail setup. Yes, it's free floated, but the optic is attached to the handguard. It's probably going to flex a bit, especially as the weapon heats up. I also don't understand why you would want to fire a long range cartridge out of an 18" barrel and only have options for a red dot. A side mount with this set up makes a lot more sense.
The longer I look at it, the less appealing it becomes. Long, heavy, somewhat inaccurate, no option for magnified optics, and a $1700 price tag. Thanks for posting the video though, it's interesting.

The gun didnt come with the optic. That belongs to him and it is on a side mount, not the handguard.

I cnat tell you why it grouped like it did. Crappy trigger, reddot optic not to good for groups, crappy marksmanship skills.

Who cares? Somebody will buy it, of that I'm sure.

Hell I might even get one just to have a trash can grendel.

[KarlHungus]

The gun didnt come with the optic. That belongs to him and it is on a side mount, not the handguard.

I cnat tell you why it grouped like it did. Crappy trigger, reddot optic not to good for groups, crappy marksmanship skills.

Who cares? Somebody will buy it, of that I'm sure.

Hell I might even get one just to have a trash can grendel.

If you fast forward to 10:30 on the video, you can see that the Eotech is mounted to the handguard. And while I'm not a huge fan of MAC, he's a decent shooter, and at 50 yards (even with a red dot and a poor trigger) it's pretty easy to shoot tight groups. If it was a shooter/trigger/optic issue, we wouldn't see a 3.2 MOA difference between the cheap Wolf and the other stuff. You're right though, people will buy it regardless.

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Yeah, there was a video about best bolt actions with the DSA? rifle system, and he (and some one else) were comparing it to an SSG. They shot multiple calibers and ammo, and shot sub MOA.

I guess it just reinforces the view that AKs are only good for minute of man.

[dammitman]

im not gonna cut down another mans persuits and especially when its a firearm desire. i have not felt the need for an AK but do have a saiga 12 shotgun, its heavy but its fun to shoot. it shoots cheap 12 gauge shotgun ammo and so, has a place with me. in these times and in my foreseeable times, i dont need a 6.5 grendel AK47,,,,,,i am thinking that i dont need many AR15 6.5 grendels as well,,,,bolt action is much more accurate

[KarlHungus]

im not gonna cut down another mans persuits and especially when its a firearm desire. i have not felt the need for an AK but do have a saiga 12 shotgun, its heavy but its fun to shoot. it shoots cheap 12 gauge shotgun ammo and so, has a place with me. in these times and in my foreseeable times, i dont need a 6.5 grendel AK47,,,,,,i am thinking that i dont need many AR15 6.5 grendels as well,,,,bolt action is much more accurate

In most situations, I'd agree that a bolt gun is going to be better than an AR for accuracy. But not always. My 18" Grendel is 3/4 MOA, all day. In most situations (aside from bench shooting or prone from a bipod with a rear bag), I am the limiting factor, not my rifle.
But I agree that with all the insanity going on right now, 5.56 is more appealing. I shoot 6.5 more often simply because I bought several cases of Wolf before this ammo craze began. Once that stash gets burned down to 500 rounds or so, I'll switch over to 5.56 again.
Hopefully it ends by this time next year. But I don't think it will.
I've heard the Saiga's are a lot of fun, but never have had the pleasure of shooting one. Is it reliable with birdshot? That's all I can find for 12 gauge these days...

[WARWAG]

Yeah, there was a video about best bolt actions with the DSA? rifle system, and he (and some one else) were comparing it to an SSG. They shot multiple calibers and ammo, and shot sub MOA.

I guess it just reinforces the view that AKs are only good for minute of man.

MINUTE OF MAN? You really believe that about AKs? My home built AK on a Childers receiver and FN barrel and ALG trigger groups on average 0.9" MOA at 100 yards with Barnaul Steel cased ammo (7.62x39). Now mind you Barnaul makes Match Grade accurate steel cased ammo which is not available anymore thank you Biden. Hornady Black shoots bit better at .75 moa. This stupid notion that an AK couldn't hit the side of a barn while standing inside is very very dangerous. Never underestimate the accuracy of any weapon system. Now mind you that most AKs shoot with wolf ammo 2" to 2.5" MOA at 100 yards. That means at 500 yards they are capable of a 10" group. I bet you I can out shoot you with said AK against your AR15. Don't get me wrong I know ARs are can be very very accurate I have several, but most only are capable of 2" MOA. Its about a shooters capability, training and practice. Minute of man? That belief on a battle field would get you killed real fast.

[WARWAG]

On another note. The above video shows him shooting a 6.5 Grendel AK at 50 yards with an EOTECH. An EOTECH. Not exactly the best "Optic" to try and test the real accuracy of any firearm. If you thank that's a perfectly fine way to test the accuracy of any firearm then post your groups at 50 yards with an EOTECH. Show me how much better they are.

[LRRPF52]

MINUTE OF MAN? You really believe that about AKs? My home built AK on a Childers receiver and FN barrel and ALG trigger groups on average 0.9" MOA at 100 yards with Barnaul Steel cased ammo (7.62x39). Now mind you Barnaul makes Match Grade accurate steel cased ammo which is not available anymore thank you Biden. Hornady Black shoots bit better at .75 moa. This stupid notion that an AK couldn't hit the side of a barn while standing inside is very very dangerous. Never underestimate the accuracy of any weapon system. Now mind you that most AKs shoot with wolf ammo 2" to 2.5" MOA at 100 yards. That means at 500 yards they are capable of a 10" group. I bet you I can out shoot you with said AK against your AR15. Don't get me wrong I know ARs are can be very very accurate I have several, but most only are capable of 2" MOA. Its about a shooters capability, training and practice. Minute of man? That belief on a battle field would get you killed real fast.