Originally posted by Waynejessie
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Don't forget Howa did us and the Grendel all a favor by bringing this little gun out in the Grendel. For a while they were just trying to keep up and might still be for all I know. I really doubt CZ would have ever brought out a Grendel if Howa had not decided to do so. I already have a semi custom or I would have already bought he Howa barreled action and dropped it in an LSS Chassis which is the way I would currently go if I were to purchase one. I still think the Howa with a youth stock, and I agree bottom metal would be a hot ticket item
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I love my mini, sure there are things I see that could be improved, but for the price it is great. I get sub moa with factory ammo. I would have never got a 6.5 grendel if howa hadn't released the mini when it did. I am just now getting into the ar platform for hogs, but I will hunt white-tail with my mini as I intended when I was looking for a replacement for the old .30-06 that caused me to flinch terribly. The mini was a breath of fresh air and now I am confident I will not miss a deer this season with it and its plastic parts. I want cheaper mags and bottom metal would be nice but its still a great gun and Matt has been good about checking in here and I think listening to us. Remember Legacy does not make the guns they are the US distributer so I am sure "things take time"."I rarely give a definite answer" - TG
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Originally posted by kmon View PostDon't forget Howa did us and the Grendel all a favor by bringing this little gun out in the Grendel. For a while they were just trying to keep up and might still be for all I know. I really doubt CZ would have ever brought out a Grendel if Howa had not decided to do so. I already have a semi custom or I would have already bought he Howa barreled action and dropped it in an LSS Chassis which is the way I would currently go if I were to purchase one. I still think the Howa with a youth stock, and I agree bottom metal would be a hot ticket item
I sent emails and stopped by their booth at SHOT for many years talking about this, and was scoffed at. They actually told me they would do 6.8 before they ever did a Grendel, which is a head-scratcher if I ever saw one from a European company with a rifle that already has the appropriate bolt face and magazine for a cartridge that will bite the heels of a 6.5x55 Mauser from a micro action. I'm a big fan of CZ's products and craftsmanship too. Looks like demand finally spoke though.
We also were trying to get Mossberg to do it. Howa saw an opportunity and stepped up to the plate, which is commendable. It will be my kids' first center-fire rifle for training on with loads we make ourselves, probably will start out with a light bullet in the 85-95gr region with a mild load (somewhere higher than a starting load) to let them work up.
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Originally posted by LRRPF52 View PostWe were trying to get CZ to do Grendel for years. There are a lot of 7.62x39 brand new CZ barrels out there that were pulled and replaced with 6.5 Grendel pipes.
I sent emails and stopped by their booth at SHOT for many years talking about this, and was scoffed at. They actually told me they would do 6.8 before they ever did a Grendel, which is a head-scratcher if I ever saw one from a European company with a rifle that already has the appropriate bolt face and magazine for a cartridge that will bite the heels of a 6.5x55 Mauser from a micro action. I'm a big fan of CZ's products and craftsmanship too. Looks like demand finally spoke though.
We also were trying to get Mossberg to do it. Howa saw an opportunity and stepped up to the plate, which is commendable. It will be my kids' first center-fire rifle for training on with loads we make ourselves, probably will start out with a light bullet in the 85-95gr region with a mild load (somewhere higher than a starting load) to let them work up.
Has anyone threaded a spotter barrel yet?
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Originally posted by kmon View PostDon't forget Howa did us and the Grendel all a favor by bringing this little gun out in the Grendel. For a while they were just trying to keep up and might still be for all I know. I really doubt CZ would have ever brought out a Grendel if Howa had not decided to do so. I already have a semi custom or I would have already bought he Howa barreled action and dropped it in an LSS Chassis which is the way I would currently go if I were to purchase one. I still think the Howa with a youth stock, and I agree bottom metal would be a hot ticket item
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I get what you are saying on doing us a favor or not . The way I see it is with the popularity of the Howa I expect to see others start chambering the Grendel. By stepping up to the plate with a Grendel Howa showed the other manufactures it is a marktable option to add to their own offerings. Would really like to see Ruger bring out the American in the Grendel. As people see a need there will be other options offered for making the Howa what you want it to be, but will cost extra $.
But I will just keep the CZ with a Grendel tube that was put together before we had any boltie factory options.
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I think it was pretty clear that howa was putting plastic bottom metal on these guns. Mine is still holding at 35 lb/ft. Remington did this years ago with the Mohawk before the advancements we have in polymer today. There will be bottom metal soon enough. Great little rifle. They did do us a favor by bringing these to market so quickly. We pushed and they produced.
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Originally posted by Waynejessie View PostIf it's worth doing; it's worth doing right.Again, I am a repeat Howa customer. My older Howa's with bottom metal is what convinced me to buy the mini-action sight unseen. I am not sure I agree with your statement about about Howa doing us a favor. I paid just under $700 for the favor. These are not $300 budget rifles from Marlin or Savage. I could expect plastic on them but not on a $700 rifle.
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Originally posted by Rebels010 View PostI paid $400 for a HB action from Brownells. Rifle shoots extremely well and I'm very pleased with it, plastic parts and all.
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