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  • #16
    My uncle used the 264 Win Mag to excellent effect in the late '50s and the '60s.

    I think there were several factors, starting with anti-metric bias. The rifle also developed a reputation for being a barrel-burner like the .220 Swift.

    Probably the biggest blow was the advent of inexpensive chronographs. Folks discovered that Winchester had rounded up the velocity to an uncomfortable degree. The resulting velocities were only slightly higher than the .270 Winchester for the same weight bullets. Tha coincidence coupled nicely with the anti-metric bias.

    In truth, having the same muzzle velocity for the same same bullet weight makes the 6.5 superior to the 270. The cartridges with "270-like" game harvesting potential and trajectories are the 260 Remington and the 6.5 Creedmoor.

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    • #17
      Agreed. I think the .270 Winchester's popularity in the US pushed the 6.5/.264" aside, with most of the other hunting rifles chambered with .30 bores. My first experience with 6.5mm was shooting one of my Boy Scout Leader's .264 Win Mags in an impact area we infiltrated that was part of the Edwards AFB and China Lake Naval Weapon's Test Center in the High Desert of CA. I remember blasting entirely through the axle of a Deuce-and-a-half truck and feeling the power and penetration of the cartridge. I responded with an "I like it!" reminiscent of Robocop and the Barret (when the crooks were shooting up the streets).

      I have a .260 Rem AR10 with a Bartlein barrel done by GA Precision, and my 16" Grendel AR15. I wish my Pre-64 Model 70 .270 Win. was a .264 WM, but a .260 Rem would do. I need 250fps more mv to match .260 Rem trajectory with my .270 Win, and the .260 still has it beat for wind drift. Within 500yds, it's a wash, but the .260 Rem out-gasses the .270 from thereon out.

      Americans are definitely re-discovering the 6.5mm since the popularity of the .260 Rem, Grendel, and 6.5 CM have really picked up over the past several years.

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      • txgunner00
        Chieftain
        • Mar 2011
        • 2071

        #18
        My dad picked up a .264 WM when I was a kid and we have downed many, many critters with it. The flat trajectory and mild recoil makes it a sweet hunting rig.
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        • Y85
          Warrior
          • Sep 2012
          • 252

          #19
          I haven't looked lately, any of the big companies selling rifles in 264WM currently? Also, Bob, tell us a little about the 6.5STW -- wildcat? What does it look like ballistically?

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          • Drifter
            Chieftain
            • Mar 2011
            • 1662

            #20
            In addition to my Grendels, I also have a 6.5 Creedmoor in the Mega Maten.
            Drifter

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            • #21
              Here is my Elesio RTS 6.5 CM built by Proof Research, just got it couple weeks ago but still waiting on Leupold Mark 8

              24" Bartlein carbon wrapped by Proof with AAC SDN-6 Suppresor
              Proof/Defiance Machine action
              Jewel trigger
              Cerakote camo

              Good to see the popularity of the various 6.5 growing!
              Happy shooting
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              Last edited by Guest; 12-22-2012, 12:34 AM.

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              • #22
                Hi Colt,
                I have a half dozen friends building Eliseo rifles right now, most are R5's for across the course competition or mid range prone competitions. Most are in 6BR but a few .260's and one 6.5 Creedmoor. I have the Tubb 2000 in 6.5 Creedmoor it is a fantastic caliber.
                Bob

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                • PA_Allen
                  Warrior
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 333

                  #23
                  Here are two of my favorites both in 6.5x55:
                  M96 Swedish Mauser made in 1902 (the one that started my 6.5 addiction)
                  And rem 700 classic 1994 edition



                  PA

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                  • Von Gruff
                    Chieftain
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1078

                    #24
                    That is a couple of real beauties right there. The M 96 is in spectacular condition for a 110 year old.
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                    • PA_Allen
                      Warrior
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 333

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Von Gruff View Post
                      That is a couple of real beauties right there. The M 96 is in spectacular condition for a 110 year old.
                      Thanks. I got the M96 more than 20 years ago at the local gun store for the princely sum of $99. It has all matching serial numbers and has always shot amazingly well. I am amazed at the craftmanship put into the military arms of the time.
                      - PA

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                      • #26
                        The Swede's have been known for extracting and producing arguably the world's finest steel for centuries. They make superb artillery and cannon barrels, as well as rifle and machine gun barrels. They also have a disproportionate military industry to population, when compared to other nations, with the capacity to make their own aircraft as well.

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                        • sneaky one
                          Chieftain
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 3077

                          #27
                          Stick to the slower 6.5 cals. That is the shine point -on the 6.5's. The ultra fast units= a lead smear from the 60's-70's= 264 mag-& etc.==Way too fast, for their times. Bullet design was not up to par-as compared to- 2006- 2012. I've proven that a few times-lately. Lots of data, that I have collected= the 6.5 is the Best diam. out there-almost to a bar-none status! I hate to keep repeating ourselves- yet the 6.5mm is the best-of the best.- as per cal. diams. go==--- & the down range performance, as compared to a ---.308? My old man=76 yrs. old freaks upon me every time -my GRRR-shows up at the range--he first complains of the AR package=look== Why does that scare you? It is only a mix of aluminum. & steel==a few machined parts---====UMMMMM just like your freakkkkkkkinnn car!!!!!!; Don't cry of a rifle to me or anyone , anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The human condition =-=-is the true issue on this planet, if we are -really here any way=== help the mentally challenged-ill people to find a way to0 a med. center., yet w/ the full support of the family behind them! I Think I was -close to Wayne Pierres comments on school safety. Hire a new soldier -to secure the school-non doughnut eater! First MAG=rubber bullets-=Next 2 mags.=Corbon, short range-bring them down fast -ammo==== you brought this-bad boy! Always study the parental units firstly- they spawned the child=== we need more accountability from the parents-no matter the age of the kids? It's still go time..
                          Last edited by sneaky one; 12-23-2012, 12:13 AM.

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                          • #28
                            6.5 grendel on a cz 527
                            6.5x55 cz 550
                            6.5x57 on 98/22 mauser
                            6.5 rem mag mod 700 remington
                            6.5 rem mag mod 660 remington
                            6.5-06 mod 700 remington
                            2 6.5x55's both 96 swedes

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                            • #29
                              My wife and I were given a Carl Gustaf 96 Mauser as a wedding present.
                              I bought my wife a first year Remington Model 7 .260 Rem.
                              I built two Grendels last year.
                              I just had a rifle rechambered in 6.5x47 Lapua.
                              I'd like a modern 6.5x55.

                              Cheers, Will
                              Last edited by Guest; 04-17-2013, 03:17 AM. Reason: correction

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                              • #30
                                6.5 Grendel
                                AR with AA upper
                                Savage barrel waiting for a 7.62x39 to show up

                                6.5 Creedmoor
                                LR 6.5 DPMS (Best rifle I ever fired.)
                                Savage 12
                                H&R single shot (x2)

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