18 inch Grendel changed over to bolt action

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  • grayfox
    Chieftain
    • Jan 2017
    • 4559

    18 inch Grendel changed over to bolt action

    So, I decided to resurrect the bolt-action format for my 18" Rainier barrelled AR in 6.5 Grr, swapping out the upper and bcg to a BCA bolt action upper/bcg I had picked up a few weeks ago. Originally I had it set this way when that new upper came in, but had results that left me scratching my head (thread/post about this somewhere lol) so discontinued it while I pondered.
    Conclusion I came to was that the increased MV I was seeing, around 50 to up towards 100 fps in some cases, for loads that I was positive were under 52 ksi... I'm chalking it up to that increase from gas not escaping back to cycle the bcg and just pushing the bullet on down the pipe.
    Makes me also think that the mfrs that test their ammo in a "test barrel" are using a bolt-action style vice AR. I think Hornady does it with an AR, maybe AA, but hodgdon et... thinking straigh pipe.

    Today I revisited all of this, with some more testing, and the results did show, again, increases in MV over what the AR was doing.
    120 Tgk, load with 27.2 ArComp, in the AR 2436, as a bolt action 2476.
    115 Barnes Tac-mle, 27,4 Ar Comp, in the AR 2445, in bolt 2504.
    120 Pro hunter, 30.7 CFE, in AR 2453, in bolt 2487.
    129 SST, 27 gr Ar comp, AR was 2346, in bolt 2421.
    No brass/no primers looked over-pressure, no swipes, no shiny spots, no sticky bolt lift. Brass looked good. It should have b/c I know these loads from the ARs.

    These are all candidates for a hunting load in this barrel.

    I'm trying to find a good niche for this barrel, but don't need it in AR now that I'm working on a 16" (for short/light, 125 yds and under) and already have the 20 nailed down. So maybe this will be a good spot for it.

    Has anyone else done anything on this? Interesting also b/c it's the same barrel as AR, and now in bolt.
    "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"
  • A5Blaster Number 2
    Warrior
    • Nov 2024
    • 203

    #2
    Sounds about right to me. When I have worked up loads with same components and seating depth for my bolt grendels that I use in my ar grendels. I have seen higher fps in the bolt grendel at the same charges,same seating depth,same barrel length.

    I don't have any written data points at hand but my memory is saying in the 50/75 fps range difference.

    As to what company's use to test with. My understanding is unless they label it as (AR) then it was either in a bolt action or a locking breach pressure test barrel.

    I use to have some pics of BPI's test setup for rifles. It was a barrel mounted into a locking breach, single shot, all the pressure testing equipment was mounted straight to the apparatus. Their shotgun setup looking almost identical.

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    • grayfox
      Chieftain
      • Jan 2017
      • 4559

      #3
      thanks. thought I was going nuts!
      "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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