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  • Lonewolf465
    Unwashed
    • May 2018
    • 4

    Looking for help with upper selection

    New to the forum today but have lurked for awhile. I'm a long time ar shooter but recently developed an interest in the 6.5 Grendel. I'm not to a point where I want to build an upper but at this time I prefer to purchase a complete upper. I have found that they vary from less than $400 to well over $1200. I know you get what you pay for. I am looking for an accurate barrel for a rifle that will be used primarily for hunting. It will be flatland prairie shooting so some distances will be involved. I recently purchased an Aero Precision upper for a .308 rifle and I am very satisified with that upper. Are their 6.5 Grendel uppers good to go?? Thanks, in advance for the advice. Be gentle, I'm new to the Grendel pack.
    Last edited by Lonewolf465; 05-23-2018, 03:43 PM.
  • Kswhitetails
    Chieftain
    • Oct 2016
    • 1914

    #2
    Post 1, welcome aboard!

    As far as uppers go, there is no better deal going than LaRue's Ultimate Upper kit. With the caveat that I am a LaRue fanboy, for what you get, and the fact that all parts and finishes are top shelf, I'd advise you to look long and hard at this link:



    You get the entire rifle (minus a stripped lower) for under 900 bucks. Under 800 if you are happy with black. Add to this that you can get a 40% discount on his suppressor, and with your order number you can get a lower for another 200, you really cannot beat this deal.

    Aero makes good stuff. Probably similar to the LaRue, but the LaRue is a better deal all things considered. I wouldn't hesitate to own an Aero either. (After you get familiar with the Grendel, that Aero 308 may well become a 6.5/6creed).

    Alexander Arms is a good source from all reports. Additionally, these folks are the originators of Grendel, if they sell you something Grendel, then that's what you're getting.

    Right now, I'd shy away from BCA.

    Grendelhunter stuff has mixed reports, but usually better than BCA right now.

    Stoner from Midway has turned Chinese-ish, if not full blown.

    I don't have any direct experience beyond these, I have handled personally parts or complete uppers from everyone above. What's your budget, if you don't mind posting your plans?
    Last edited by Kswhitetails; 05-23-2018, 04:42 PM.
    Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.

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    • ricsmall
      Warrior
      • Sep 2014
      • 987

      #3
      I would agree with everything kswhitetail said. Sound advice.
      Member since 2011, data lost in last hack attack

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      • VASCAR2
        Chieftain
        • Mar 2011
        • 6339

        #4

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        • brian y
          Warrior
          • Dec 2016
          • 251

          #5
          Also check out Odin Works, They build good stuff.
          NRA Endowment Member, GOA Life Member, FPC Member, VDL Member

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          • VASCAR2
            Chieftain
            • Mar 2011
            • 6339

            #6
            Odin Works is running a Memorial Day Sale as is Precision Firearms.


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            10% off Criterion 223 Wylde, 308 Win, 6.5 Grendel, and 6.5 Creedmoor Barrels.

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            74 Dupont Rd
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            Martinsburg WV 25404

            Custom AR-15 Type Rifles and Uppers. Specializing in 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 308, 260 Remington, 243, and 5.56 or 223 Wylde Chambers. We build on the AR15 Type Action and AR10 or LR308 action. We use Barrels from Lilja, Bartlein, Hart, Kreiger, and Lothar Walther. Precision Firearms is an FFL licensed firearm manufacturer. We build custom, highly accurate, AR15 Rifles and Uppers for LE, competition, match, varmint, and sport applications.

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            Last edited by VASCAR2; 05-24-2018, 12:19 PM.

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            • PrecisionFirearms
              Warrior
              • Apr 2011
              • 770

              #7
              Originally posted by Lonewolf465 View Post
              New to the forum today but have lurked for awhile. I'm a long time ar shooter but recently developed an interest in the 6.5 Grendel. I'm not to a point where I want to build an upper but at this time I prefer to purchase a complete upper. I have found that they vary from less than $400 to well over $1200. I know you get what you pay for. I am looking for an accurate barrel for a rifle that will be used primarily for hunting. It will be flatland prairie shooting so some distances will be involved. I recently purchased an Aero Precision upper for a .308 rifle and I am very satisified with that upper. Are their 6.5 Grendel uppers good to go?? Thanks, in advance for the advice. Be gentle, I'm new to the Grendel pack.
              As a new member to the Horde, I will offer you a one time 10% discount on a barrel or 15% discount on an Upper assembly. You can email me at pf15@pf15.com!

              Mark Hostetter
              Precision Firearms
              "Precision - The Pinnacle of Perfection."

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              • Lastrites
                Warrior
                • Apr 2017
                • 679

                #8
                Originally posted by PrecisionFirearms View Post
                As a new member to the Horde, I will offer you a one time 10% discount on a barrel or 15% discount on an Upper assembly. You can email me at pf15@pf15.com!

                Mark Hostetter
                Precision Firearms
                And that is a very nice offer that Lonewolf should really consider!

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                • Klem
                  Chieftain
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3629

                  #9
                  Lone Wolf,

                  I would suggest taking Mark Hostetter's generous PF offer (thank you Mark). LaRue's carefully nurtured brand loyalty (e.g. 'fan boy' social media presence) is a clumsy proxy for uncompromising accuracy so I would not recommend LaRue as anything more than mass-produced reliability. PF however, uses Olympic-grade match, stainless barrel blanks from Lilja, Bartlett and Krieger. LaRue does not. 80-90% of a gun's accuracy is in the barrel and you don't want to buy an average barrel to then spend the next five years trying different ammunition hoping one day it will shoot properly.

                  For the upper I suggest a 7075 billet. PF commission their own and while I cannot vouch for its quality I am sure it does their barrels justice.

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                  • Kswhitetails
                    Chieftain
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1914

                    #10
                    Klem, I can assure you that nothing about my LaRue appears or feels mass produced. It is true however that we don't know much about his barrel blanks. For all we know, they are every bit as good as Bartlien, Shillen, or Krieger. Mark is it has been said "keeping the details close to his chest" about the material, treatments, and coatings. Mine shoots groups I can put in my thumbnail easily, something I'm sure PF guns also do. Having never had anything PF, I can't attest to their reliability standard, but I would find it hard to imagine LaRue losing this test. It feeds everything I shove in it, without issue, and like it was made for that particular cartridge. My one disappointment is that it doesn't like factory BLACK as well as I'd hoped, only doing 1 inch with it.

                    Don't misunderstand, I should have put PF on my list above, and was later disappointed that I didn't, but someone thankfully made up for my oversight. PF is on my short list for a bolt gun, until I decide otherwise, if only because of their reputation for good machining and rifle work.

                    As far as being a 'fan boy' - unapologetic-ly so, sir.
                    Nothing kills the incentive of men faster than a healthy sense of entitlement. Nothing kills entitlement faster than a healthy sense of achievement.

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                    • 1Shot
                      Warrior
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 781

                      #11
                      I would also add that if you are going to be primarily shooting long range I would go with a 24" barrel which will give you the highest velocities.

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                      • Klem
                        Chieftain
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3629

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kswhitetails View Post
                        Klem, I can assure you that nothing about my LaRue appears or feels mass produced. It is true however that we don't know much about his barrel blanks. For all we know, they are every bit as good as Bartlien, Shillen, or Krieger. Mark is it has been said "keeping the details close to his chest" about the material, treatments, and coatings. Mine shoots groups I can put in my thumbnail easily, something I'm sure PF guns also do. Having never had anything PF, I can't attest to their reliability standard, but I would find it hard to imagine LaRue losing this test. It feeds everything I shove in it, without issue, and like it was made for that particular cartridge. My one disappointment is that it doesn't like factory BLACK as well as I'd hoped, only doing 1 inch with it.

                        Don't misunderstand, I should have put PF on my list above, and was later disappointed that I didn't, but someone thankfully made up for my oversight. PF is on my short list for a bolt gun, until I decide otherwise, if only because of their reputation for good machining and rifle work.

                        As far as being a 'fan boy' - unapologetic-ly so, sir.
                        LaRue makes nice guns no doubt about it, but you have to admit they are not in the same league as PF's best barrel offerings. You could tap out your LaRue barrel and replace it with a Lilja drop-in while keeping everything else. That would be a quick fix guaranteed of tightening all groups and solving the 1" group issue. Hand-loading with that bullet should tighten those groups also. It's all relative, but for the OP's long range accuracy expectations, reliability alone is not enough.

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                        • montana
                          Chieftain
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 3245

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Klem View Post
                          Lone Wolf,

                          I would suggest taking Mark Hostetter's generous PF offer (thank you Mark).
                          +1

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                          • fixin
                            Warrior
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 112

                            #14
                            Lone wolf... Mr. Hostetter's offer is your golden ticket right now. I started with a factory modified 18" AA upper and paid $1300 for it 5 years ago. Now that upper is well into the $1500 category. As kswhitetails said Alexander Arms started the Grendel and if you DO by chance purchase from them, the upper will shoot. Like everything, it will need time to wear in but once that happens you're good. I absolutely WOULD NOT pass up Mr.Hostetter's offer though, that's like saying no to being given season VIP tickets to your favorite sports team LOL. You have a +2 from me
                            to procrastinate... tomorrow!!

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                            • Popeye212
                              Chieftain
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 1610

                              #15
                              Precision Firearms is at the top of my list and as soon as I can afford it that will be my first stop. I REALLY want to try one of those Bartlein barrels.

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