Coyote Bullet Terminal Performance Questions

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  • Vetman1
    Bloodstained
    • Dec 2017
    • 56

    Coyote Bullet Terminal Performance Questions

    I have just started working with the Grendel and studying up on different bullet results. I have been hunting coyotes and occasionally hogs with a hand loaded 125 grain SST in .300 Blackout. We shot 3 coyotes on one stand Friday night hitting all three coyotes in the lung area. On all 3 shots I heard the bullet ricochet after it exited the animal. Two of the coyotes had quarter sized exit wounds. I do hunt elevated about 8 foot off of the ground on a makeshift Highrack.

    I understand that my desires may not be reality. My questions concern both terminal performance of the Grendel bullets as well as expansion of the bullet. I would love to have a bullet that kills quickly, but does not readily richochet upon exit. I know this is not reality, but are some bullets more apt to perform in this way than others? Obviously I make sure of my back drop when shooting, but the richochets are troubling to hear.

    I have been looking at the 123 grain SST, the 100 grain Nosler Ballistic tips, and the 95 grain V-max. Of these three I suspect the 123 grain SST might exit a coyote and richochet more often than not resulting in a narrow wound channel and having a coyote run off to die elsewhere.

    If I remember correctly the Ballistic tips from Nosler are not all the same. I thought I read where the Ballistic tips less than 100 grains were more frangible and should not be used on hogs or deer.

    Also, concerning the V-max. This bullet appears to be the most frangible of the 3 bullets I have mentioned. My concerns are that there are reports of the V-max stopping at the shoulder and not entering the chest cavity of the coyote resulting in wounded and lost animals.

    Finally, I occasionally come across hogs while coyote hunting. I feel like from experience and research that the SST is probably the best bullet for Hog hunting, but I worry about them not expanding enough in coyotes. I have some concerns with the Ballistic tip being tough enough to enter a Hog and kill them cleanly. I also have real doubts about the V-max being able to cleanly kill a large boar.

    I am pretty sure I want my cake and eat it as well. I just want opinions on terminal performance comparison between these three bullets.
  • BluntForceTrauma
    Administrator
    • Feb 2011
    • 3931

    #2
    VM1, check with Double Naught Spy; he usually shoots coyotes with 123 SST. See his video "Coyotes of 2017" here.
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    • Djgrendel
      Warrior
      • Feb 2016
      • 200

      #3
      I have zero experience shooting hogs. But considering coyotes the 123 sst and 100 grain ballistic tip will make holes in and out. I usually use the vmax and sierra's 85 grain hollowpoint . I Have not used the 90 grain tnt load on song dogs yet, but I think they would do just fine as well. I get pass through with about every bullet on a broadside coyote.
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      • Frontier Gear
        Warrior
        • Nov 2017
        • 772

        #4
        What's your range? If I understand you correctly, you are looking for something that will kill effectively and not exit the animal. So you want a good amount of energy with a limited amount of penetration.

        Sounds like you may need two different rounds/calibers. For 100 yards or less on a non-exiting coyote, I would recommend a 180-200 grain 44 magnum hollow point fired out of a rifle. I've used that in the past and it works wonders. 3/4" entry hole and the slug is found under the skin on the opposite side. A hot 45LC in a rifle would do the same thing. That's probably not a good choice for a hog though or for distances over 100 yards. For a hog under 100 yards and without over penetration, I'd be looking at a hollow point out of a 458 SOCOM, 450 Bushmaster, 45-70 or something along those lines. I have no experience with hogs, but I'm pretty sure they are going to be harder to kill than a coyote.
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        • NugginFutz
          Chieftain
          • Aug 2013
          • 2622

          #5
          All the coyote's I've shot with the VMax were DRT. Broadside exit hole the size of a baseball. (6mm 87 VMax @ 2850 fps). Most satisfactory, and I seriously doubt there was ever anything solid or massive enough to ricochet.

          Hogs? They haven't made it into my part of the country, yet.
          [SIZE=1]If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? [/SIZE]

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          • tracker12
            Warrior
            • Dec 2017
            • 167

            #6
            Ballistic Tips are death on coyotes. Load them fast and you will get great expansion. I have used the 120 grain with great success when I lived out in Cali.
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