Best bullet on hand for whitetail deer with a grendel

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  • Dt219
    Warrior
    • Nov 2020
    • 466

    Best bullet on hand for whitetail deer with a grendel

    100gr Nosler ballistic tip, 120gr Sierra pro hunter, 123gr sst, or a 123gr eldm. Who would recommend what ? Killled a buck yesterday using 123sst at 40yds. The bullet did not exit he ran only 20yds.
  • HKGuns
    Unwashed
    • Nov 2021
    • 24

    #2
    I've used SST's on deer with tremendous effectiveness in other calibers. My choice of those would be SST 1st, ELDm 2nd.

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    • grayfox
      Chieftain
      • Jan 2017
      • 4550

      #3
      It's more of a bullet+powder combination for what you seek.
      Any of those with appropriate powder and load development, will do the trick.
      I must admit that this last hunt I was on, I used a 123 sst on a spike buck, slight quartering away, 120 yds, and hit him but lost in the woods due to poor blood trail (single hole, no exit). Just me, b/c others have used it successfully. But I'm leaning away from the sst for me, for now.
      "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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      • keystone183
        Warrior
        • Mar 2013
        • 592

        #4
        I have killed countless deer with the 123eldm, and the amax before it out of 12.5" barrels. I use that bullet because 95% of them i shoot in the neck, and need something that fragments quickly and dumps energy. The SST does not do that, at least in my experience in that length barrel. The few that have been body shots have almost all been very effective as well. Most have been pass through, or near pass thru. Most distances on all shots have been under 150 yards.

        This is to say nothing of the scores of pigs i have taken with same combo. This has been on all manner of shots and sizes. Rarely does one get out of sight that has been hit with a well placed (not on the run or thu heavy brush) shot.

        Just my .02!

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        • ported45
          Warrior
          • Feb 2018
          • 283

          #5
          120 ProHunter

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          • Stinky Coyote
            Warrior
            • Dec 2017
            • 642

            #6
            eld-m fan here, haven't tried anything else to compare in a Grendel, I like frangible (match) construction on low to moderate velocity rigs, things seem to go down quicker, these 123's have SD for days so penetration depths not an issue for class 2 size game, so I like it when they dump lots of good inside as they go

            I'm getting shorter recoveries with the Grendel eld-m combo than .270 win with 140 gr accubonds or 270 ism with 140 gr accubonds, I've been way overkill for a long time I think.
            Last edited by Stinky Coyote; 11-30-2021, 07:54 PM.

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            • Dt219
              Warrior
              • Nov 2020
              • 466

              #7
              It was a well placed shot. And the bullet did stop just beneath the skin on opposite side. But I was expecting it to pile on through

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              • CavityBackBullets
                Warrior
                • Nov 2016
                • 117

                #8
                We still have not seen a bullet for the Grendel that outperforms a Cavity Back Bullets MKZ.
                Double Naught Spy can contest to their effectiveness over the SST.
                An ELD-M cant compete with it either.
                A 2.5x caliber expansion monolithic that will dump its energy and give you a blood trail.
                Both the 105 grain and 118 grain are very popular in the Grendel outside this forum.
                They are the only bullet your own milk jug challenge master will use on game from his Grendel.

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                • keystone183
                  Warrior
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 592

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CavityBackBullets View Post
                  We still have not seen a bullet for the Grendel that outperforms a Cavity Back Bullets MKZ.
                  Double Naught Spy can contest to their effectiveness over the SST.
                  An ELD-M cant compete with it either.
                  A 2.5x caliber expansion monolithic that will dump its energy and give you a blood trail.
                  Both the 105 grain and 118 grain are very popular in the Grendel outside this forum.
                  They are the only bullet your own milk jug challenge master will use on game from his Grendel.
                  Had two boxes show up about a week ago. Looking forward to seeing results. Slightly concerned about how they will preform in neck shots that don't catch a bone, but we shall see!

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                  • Kosh65
                    Warrior
                    • Jan 2021
                    • 196

                    #10

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                    • Stinky Coyote
                      Warrior
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 642

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CavityBackBullets View Post
                      We still have not seen a bullet for the Grendel that outperforms a Cavity Back Bullets MKZ.
                      Double Naught Spy can contest to their effectiveness over the SST.
                      An ELD-M cant compete with it either.
                      A 2.5x caliber expansion monolithic that will dump its energy and give you a blood trail.
                      Both the 105 grain and 118 grain are very popular in the Grendel outside this forum.
                      They are the only bullet your own milk jug challenge master will use on game from his Grendel.
                      barnes has a 115 gr ttsx tac-tx supposedly opens down to 1400, appeals as mono and for reloaders even though you can get the factory ammo I find it's too slow, crimped, bullet seated short as compared to the Hornady so it seems like they really worried about semi-auto set-up, reloaders should be able to push the 115 faster than the factory and seat it further out a bit, anyway I digress, I've been watching for reports and tests on the 115 which is not to be confused with the other barnes 6.5 offerings which are way tougher design for the typical high speed cartridges...only the 115 is supposed to be for the short barrel AR style speeds, so I am imagining it will compete with your bullets once we see some recovered slugs and gel tests

                      for those of us who don't reload you can get the barnes mono 115's in factory ammo for the lead free places or if that's your choice, it's tough to beat the factory hornady black ammo, the high bc/sd lets it stretch it's legs where the bullets with lesser legs lose that efficiency, with only 30 grains of powder to play with there's something to be said for those 123's and maximizing range potentials, for 300 yard or less hunters then copper away, I just dialled up a fat Alberta Whitetail Doe at 420 yards with a 16" barrel bolt action and on quartering away shot entered mid ribs and after 15" penetration exited with a 1.5" hole out the opposite inside front shoulder/neck and destroyed everything above the heart, not sure I'd be dialing up a copper that far?, I still had 1800 fps with a 2386 fps launch, she went down right there, I have a hard time going backwards on sd/bc with this cartridge, brain doesn't want to accept giving up any inches on the 123's, the 118gr you have looks pretty good, long though, I'd likely have a look if I reloaded

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                      • grendelnubi
                        Warrior
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 388

                        #12
                        You can expect the 123 sst to fragment at the range you shot your deer. FPS will determine how much. Out of those you listed I would look at the 120 pro hunter. I believe it is a bonded projectile which should limit fragmentation and give you better odds of an exit wound. Any of them should work however. We would really need a lot more details like MV and distances you would expect a shot to occur to give a more precise recommendation.

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                        • Dt219
                          Warrior
                          • Nov 2020
                          • 466

                          #13

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                          • Stugotz
                            Bloodstained
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 82

                            #14
                            You won't go wrong with the Hornady 123gr SST.
                            Speed is Fine, Accuracy is final....but accurate hits at extremely high speed is final much faster.
                            I don't think you understand, these boys killed my dog!
                            Taking the gun off safe increases the velocity by 100%

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                            • CavityBackBullets
                              Warrior
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 117

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Stinky Coyote View Post
                              barnes has a 115 gr ttsx tac-tx supposedly opens down to 1400, appeals as mono and for reloaders even though you can get the factory ammo I find it's too slow, crimped, bullet seated short as compared to the Hornady so it seems like they really worried about semi-auto set-up, reloaders should be able to push the 115 faster than the factory and seat it further out a bit, anyway I digress, I've been watching for reports and tests on the 115 which is not to be confused with the other barnes 6.5 offerings which are way tougher design for the typical high speed cartridges...only the 115 is supposed to be for the short barrel AR style speeds, so I am imagining it will compete with your bullets once we see some recovered slugs and gel tests

                              for those of us who don't reload you can get the barnes mono 115's in factory ammo for the lead free places or if that's your choice, it's tough to beat the factory hornady black ammo, the high bc/sd lets it stretch it's legs where the bullets with lesser legs lose that efficiency, with only 30 grains of powder to play with there's something to be said for those 123's and maximizing range potentials, for 300 yard or less hunters then copper away, I just dialled up a fat Alberta Whitetail Doe at 420 yards with a 16" barrel bolt action and on quartering away shot entered mid ribs and after 15" penetration exited with a 1.5" hole out the opposite inside front shoulder/neck and destroyed everything above the heart, not sure I'd be dialing up a copper that far?, I still had 1800 fps with a 2386 fps launch, she went down right there, I have a hard time going backwards on sd/bc with this cartridge, brain doesn't want to accept giving up any inches on the 123's, the 118gr you have looks pretty good, long though, I'd likely have a look if I reloaded
                              We make loaded ammo in both the 118 grain and 105 grain.
                              Both out of stock currently however in production right now.
                              Barnes TTSX bullets do not open as reliably or as big as the CBB's do.
                              CBB is a CNC milled bullet. A Barnes is a swaged into a mold.
                              The length of the 118 isnt an issue. It has to do with how the cavity effects both pressure and initial movement of the projectile.
                              As well the cavity also changes how the projectile does not need as fast a twist rate as it would seem.
                              Lastly with the cavity they do not tend to reverse themselves like many monolithic bullets do when expanding.

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