I have not seen or heard of a TDP or solicitation on any such weapon.
US Army Considers Adopting an Interim Battle Rifle in 7.62NATO: eventually adopt 6.5
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Every time I see this type thread, I am reminded of Ranger school in 1981 when I "volunteered" to carry a M14, the heavy mags, and the heavy ammo for the Mountain phase. The m14 was used as the "squad automatic weapon" in those days. I was very happy to give up that M14 and carry a M16A2 for the rest of the class (when I was not carrying a M60). Most people who think 308 or such "battle rifles" are cool never had to carry one every day, day after day. You carry one a whole lot more than you shoot one.
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It goes both ways. The Germans are putting a 5.56 on their new Puma IFV, not a 7.62. And since the Puma weighs in at 30+ tons and has a 1000 horsepower engine that extra 2or3 pounds they are saving will be irrelevant compared to the loss of capability.
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Originally posted by LRRPF52 View PostDo people not think this through?
Originally posted by Lightning8 View PostEvery time I see this type thread, I am reminded of Ranger school in 1981 when I "volunteered" to carry a M14, the heavy mags, and the heavy ammo for the Mountain phase. The m14 was used as the "squad automatic weapon" in those days. I was very happy to give up that M14 and carry a M16A2 for the rest of the class (when I was not carrying a M60). Most people who think 308 or such "battle rifles" are cool never had to carry one every day, day after day. You carry one a whole lot more than you shoot one.
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Originally posted by Lightning8 View PostEvery time I see this type thread, I am reminded of Ranger school in 1981 when I "volunteered" to carry a M14, the heavy mags, and the heavy ammo for the Mountain phase. The m14 was used as the "squad automatic weapon" in those days. I was very happy to give up that M14 and carry a M16A2 for the rest of the class (when I was not carrying a M60). Most people who think 308 or such "battle rifles" are cool never had to carry one every day, day after day. You carry one a whole lot more than you shoot one.
Same thing in 1976. M-14A1E-2 I believe. I am convinced they made us carry it because it was heavy. It didn't cycle when fired. Did yours actually work? If not, I bet you got the same one I carried five years earlier.
LR55
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Originally posted by LR1955 View PostL8:
Same thing in 1976. M-14A1E-2 I believe. I am convinced they made us carry it because it was heavy. It didn't cycle when fired. Did yours actually work? If not, I bet you got the same one I carried five years earlier.
LR55
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Originally posted by 85_Ranger4x4 View PostI would love a Garand or a M1A... I know they are big bulky and awkward...
It was somewhat longer and heavier than I preferred, though, so I had planned to install a shorter flash suppressor and shorten the barrel a bit, sorta like this:
Of course, select-fire would be even better...
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Originally posted by stanc View PostBig, yes. But, awkward? I must disagree. I used to have an M1A with an E2 stock. Looked exactly like that in the photo below. It had the best fit, feel, and handling of any rifle I've ever fired.
It was somewhat longer and heavier than I preferred, though, so I had planned to install a shorter flash suppressor and shorten the barrel a bit, sorta like this:
Of course, select-fire would be even better...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N06ySsT2EKU
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Originally posted by mdram View Post
BTW I sort of felt that a 6.5x45 might be a better round than the 6.5 Grendel (6.5x39). But the Grendel at least works in our current rifles so less replacements of weapons, initially.
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Originally posted by MeatAxe View PostHere's another one, the ".264 USA" round, et al:
Recently, I've shared quite a few briefings by Jim Schatz. It's not only because he recently passed away, but also because they are so timely. We ...
Can't say that everyone in the military has their head stuck in the sand regarding that turkey of a M4 5.56 platform. Somebody is thinking outside of the box. Unfortunately, this would necessitate totally new lowers, uppers and magazines, etc....no mention of the existing mass-produced and extensively developed 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel rounds that could use existing lowers and mags. Looks like another promising and lucrative study leading nowhere.
Result: "the M4 / 5.56 is the greatest implement of battle ever conceived!"
The only way to get a new weapon is to have a new cartridge. That has been the case since the M14. I do like some of the new designs which are very modular. Like the Tavor X95.
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Originally posted by n9nwo View Post"What weapons are the most common we have encountered that fire 7.62x54R?"
The Mosin Nagant, the weapon that has lost more wars than any other.
If we stuck with the cheap and what we already have we would still be messing around trying to modernize 1855 Springfield designs.
We can't stay with the status que just because it is what we have had.Last edited by 85_Ranger4x4; 04-19-2017, 08:23 PM.
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Originally posted by n9nwo View PostBTW I sort of felt that a 6.5x45 might be a better round than the 6.5 Grendel (6.5x39). But the Grendel at least works in our current rifles so less replacements of weapons, initially.
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