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Was shooting the Odin Works AR in 6.5 Grendel yesterday, checking the scope setting. Ammo was Hornady 123 gr SST factory. I was surprised to have a double fire. The trigger is a Geiselle. Would this likely be a trigger issue? Your thoughts?
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We're you using handloads or factory ammo? Sounds like you might have had a slam fire. Thin primer meets firing.
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I have seen double fires from inexperienced users (inexperienced on a light trigger AR) not properly following through on hsnm. Accidental double tap/bump fire. Seen double, triple, and quad... on my gun handed off to someone else.
Probably your pull, follow through like you are supposed to.Last edited by Zeneffect; 11-14-2022, 03:06 PM.Comment
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+1 Holding the butt stock loosely against your shoulder may allow the recoil to cause the rifle to bounce off your shoulder and cause your finger to press the trigger againOriginally posted by Zeneffect View PostComment
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Had 1 or 2 of those in the past... what I found out for me was I was trying to "just break" the trigger -- result being it double-whammied. Now what I do (since I'm not shooting at any zombie horde anyway), is when pulling the trigger for the break, pull it all the way back into its mech stop, then let go. Firmer pull fixed it for me.
Might try that next time."Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"Comment
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It is a light single stage trigger. I was shooting for accuracy, so probably was light on the trigger. User error, I guess. My other AR has a 2 stage LaRue, which I actually prefer over this Geiselle.
The rifle was firm against my shoulder, so no bounce there.Last edited by 603 Country; 11-14-2022, 04:23 PM.Comment
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ARs are a different animal.
I actually prefer bolt actions to the AR, even though I have a couple... I'm still a nub in the black rifle category..."Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"Comment
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603,
What type of Geiselle is it? The reason I ask is that the Geiselle Hi-speed NM is adjustable to the point bump fires are inevitable. The others are fixed at the factory.
Regardless, I'm with the guys on this; it's likely a bump fire caused by the gun recoiling back onto your finger. I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet, as 52 is saying, good trigger manipulation is pulling the trigger to the rear until we see the splash on the target - then release.
In your case I'd be seeing if I could do it again, to see what causes it.Comment
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Recognizing that this occurs with a light trigger on an AR (as bolt goes forward, so does a secondary recoil which is enough to pull the trigger again without even feeling it if no follow through) will make you a better shooter in the end. I run a 1.5# timney on all of mine, I don't have this issue but just about everyone else does when they try my rifle. Comes with the territory, you get used to it and you are better for it with improved trigger technique after re-learning.Comment
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603,
No need for the armourers. The NM has a noticeable block at the rear that the others don't. This is a picture from Geiselle's website.
If bought fully assembled it is unlikely to be a NM because that is their most expensive and wasted on the average plinker. It's more likely to be an SSA or an SSA-E. Regardless, they are all capable of bump fire if not firmly held, and trigger to the rear as part of the shot sequence.
This is an SSA-E which is probably what you have. It's greased up but you can see it doesn't have the NM block behind the Disconnector.
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The high speed national match trigger is a 2 stage, so doubt it's that.Comment
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