Scout scope on a grendel?

[Pancho Villa]

For a general purpose / hunting rifle, I was looking at a scout scope on a forward mount.

Does anyone have any experience with this setup? How do you like it? Do you have any advice as far as mounting goes?

[bwaites]

I've thought about this a lot, as a shorter barreled Grendel with a scout scope would be almost ideal for quick shots, pig hunting in cover, etc. but there are only a very few decent scout scopes available, (Like almost none!) unless you decide to use a pistol scope, which generally have their own limitations as far as possible magnification ranges, etc.

[Pancho Villa]

The standard leu 2.5x scout scope sounds fine to me.

Their new 1.5-4x scout looks neat too, but not sure if its really any gain.

[LRRPF52]

I would recommend a 1-4x before even messing with a scout scope. A good 1-4x with good glass and forgiving exit pupil is hard to beat.

[Kikn]

I have a Trijicon TR22G 1x4 German#4 green, on my Beowulf, also the scope ring has a pictany mount where I put a burris fastfire II on top of. Gives you the best of both worlds for a little extra cash -_-

[Deezil]

question, whats the point of a scout scope?

[Drifter]

question, whats the point of a scout scope?

My interpretation is that a scout scope is good for quick shots at moving targets at relatively close range, with the ability to reach out further with precision when necessary. I think the scout scope concept originated with bolt actions, as it would allow easy access to the action itself if / when necessary.

I would be hesitate to mount a scope on the handguard unless it's a true monolithic design (upper receiver and handguard are one piece). Otherwise, not sure how well it would maintain zero.

A scout setup works reasonably well for its intended purpose, but it's not ideal for precision shots in low light at further distances. Not that long shots can't be made, but it handicaps a cartridge that is well-suited to longer distance shooting. In my mind, a scout scope on a Grendel is somewhat of a mismatch, but I suppose perspectives may vary...

If you go the scout scope route, my advice is to get a true scout scope, and not a handgun scope. Check the stats closely, as usually field-of-view will be noticeably larger on a scout scope (with intermediate eye relief) in comparison to a handgun scope (with extended eye relief).

Like others have mentioned, a traditional scope in the 1x-4x power range would probably be a much better choice. And there seems to be newer models in the 1x-6x and 1x-8x+ range that might be even better suited to a Grendel expected to perform on targets both near and far.

[hm2 clark]

I used a (I believe Burris) scout scope a few years ago on a 7.62x39 at am attempt at a close range running pig gun. If you shoot with both your eyes open it helps. And if you shoot when the sun is low the sun gets in your eyes easily. I went back to iron sights.

[Pancho Villa]

Scout scopes were the OG red dots. Back in the day before red dots there was no really satisfactory really quick firing mechanism outside of iron sights. Even a 1x scope took up a lot of space in your vision (and had some other problems.) A scout scope is "out of the way" and so doesn't obscure the landscape. If you hunt with it, this can be a great advantage as you can track with your left eye and aim with your right, ie, you still retain a great deal of awareness of the landscape, even when aiming.

2.5x is a nice, balanced magnification that allows for a great deal of good field shooting without being too much for all but the closest of CQB.

It was a great idea in its time, but I think red dots have obviated a lot of its usefulness in many places. I still like them, though.

[smoke13]

Burris has a 1-4x24 ($300) and a 2.75x20 scout ($250). Never used either, but look interesting at that price point.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-1-4x24-fullfield-tac30-illum-ballistic-cq-5-56-riflescope.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/burris-2-75x-heavy-plex-mat-scout-scopes.html

[parallax]

Suggestion, how about an EOTech with a tip off 3X magnifier. Good for hogs or if you want to reach out a ways. Very quick too!

[rkflorey]

I agree with BWaites.
Had a scout rifle built in .308 after reading a Jeff Cooper article in G&A. Put a 2-7x burris LER scope on it and never looked back. Scored my first Coues deer at 62 yards with it. It is a great concept and fully functioal out to 500 yards. If you can see it you can hit it. K