Gentlemen, Barbarians, and Vile Members of the Unwashed Horde: Many of you will remember we used to sell barrels here as a forum fundraiser. That time has come again.
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SPECIFICATION UPDATE MUST READ
It is covered later in this thread, but please note that the rifling specification has changed. The 3R minimal rifling mentioned below has been changed to a standard 5R rifling profile.
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This group buy is for 16" mid-length AR15-style 6.5 Grendel Faxon Firearms button-rifled barrels, which will use what we shall call KNG rifling (Kinder 'N' Gentler rifling). There will be three lands, and each land will be 0.003" high, rather than the traditional 0.004". Since the 6.5 Grendel is a relatively mild cartridge, this rifling will minimize deformation of bullet jackets in our quest for accuracy from a value-priced barrel. It may also provide an interesting dynamic for handloaders to experiment with.
I've made arrangements with Nathan Schueth, Director of Operations, Sales, and Marketing for Faxon Firearms, and they are ready to produce a run of 6.5 Grendel barrels for us when we're ready with a minimum order of 50 in one barrel length and style.
FEATURES:
• Barrel length: 16"
• Barrel profile: Medium (see attached rough drawing)
• Mid-length gas system
• Gas-block diameter: 0.750"
• Gas-port diameter: 0.078"
• Muzzle threads: 5/8 x 24
• 11-degree target crown
• Barrel steel: 4150 CMV
• Inside finish: QPQ nitride
• Outside finish: QPQ nitride
• 6.5 Grendel, SAAMI chamber, headspaced for 0.136" boltface depth
• 3-groove, button-rifled
• Rifling twist: 1:8
• Groove diameter: 0.264"
• Bore diameter: 0.258"
• M4-style barrel extension
• Magnetic particle inspected
• Weight: Approximately 1.75 lbs (final weight To Be Determined)
PAYMENT: Barrel cost is $195 each and shipping within the lower 48 states is a flat fee of $10 for a total cost of $205 (AK and HI will be charged actual shipping). Payment is by cashier's or personal check and has two options: Option A is to pay the full $205 in one payment. Option B is to pay in two installments: Installment (A) for $85 reserves your barrel and is a downpayment to Faxon to begin manufacture. Installment (B) for $120 completes the transaction and receipt of this payment releases your barrel for shipment to you.
DOWNPAYMENT REFUND: The downpayment Installment (A) $85 is only refundable up to the date this group buy meets the minimum requirement for 50 orders and this downpayment is forwarded to Faxon to begin manufacture. AFTER the downpayment is paid to Faxon, the $85 Installment (A) is NON-REFUNDABLE. If you change your mind after that point and want to recoup your $85, you will need to sell your place in line to someone else. For downpayment refund purposes, payments in full will be treated as if they were the two installments.
ALL SALES FINAL: Due to the custom nature of this project, ALL SALES ARE FINAL. Installment (A) $85 is non-refundable AFTER it is forwarded to Faxon and Installment (B) $130 is a non-refundable final payment. Faxon guarantees their barrels will be manufactured to the specifications we call out and that the bore will be within two ten-thousandths of an inch (0.0002") cylindricity down its entire length. If a barrel is not to specification, Faxon pays for the return and replacement of the barrel. As a Gentlemen's Agreement, please understand the stipulations of this group buy and decline participation if our DOWNPAYMENT REFUND policy and ALL SALES FINAL policy is unacceptable to you.
SCHEDULE: I've invited Nathan Schueth of Faxon Firearms to join the forum and participate in this thread to answer any questions from his perspective. Nathan guessimates an 8- to 12-week time frame to make the custom tooling, and then after that a 4- to 6-week time frame to machine the barrels.
ORDERING: To get started, download and print out the attached order form, fill it out, and mail it with your check or money order to my address provided on the order form. Any personal questions please direct to my email (please, not PM here because it fills up too fast). Any public questions helpful to the group will be gathered to the FAXON 50 FAQ in this thread.
That about cover everything? OK, let's do this! The sooner we get 50 the sooner we're shooting a new 6.5 Grendel barrel!
=======================
SPECIFICATION UPDATE MUST READ
It is covered later in this thread, but please note that the rifling specification has changed. The 3R minimal rifling mentioned below has been changed to a standard 5R rifling profile.
=======================
This group buy is for 16" mid-length AR15-style 6.5 Grendel Faxon Firearms button-rifled barrels, which will use what we shall call KNG rifling (Kinder 'N' Gentler rifling). There will be three lands, and each land will be 0.003" high, rather than the traditional 0.004". Since the 6.5 Grendel is a relatively mild cartridge, this rifling will minimize deformation of bullet jackets in our quest for accuracy from a value-priced barrel. It may also provide an interesting dynamic for handloaders to experiment with.
I've made arrangements with Nathan Schueth, Director of Operations, Sales, and Marketing for Faxon Firearms, and they are ready to produce a run of 6.5 Grendel barrels for us when we're ready with a minimum order of 50 in one barrel length and style.
FEATURES:
• Barrel length: 16"
• Barrel profile: Medium (see attached rough drawing)
• Mid-length gas system
• Gas-block diameter: 0.750"
• Gas-port diameter: 0.078"
• Muzzle threads: 5/8 x 24
• 11-degree target crown
• Barrel steel: 4150 CMV
• Inside finish: QPQ nitride
• Outside finish: QPQ nitride
• 6.5 Grendel, SAAMI chamber, headspaced for 0.136" boltface depth
• 3-groove, button-rifled
• Rifling twist: 1:8
• Groove diameter: 0.264"
• Bore diameter: 0.258"
• M4-style barrel extension
• Magnetic particle inspected
• Weight: Approximately 1.75 lbs (final weight To Be Determined)
PAYMENT: Barrel cost is $195 each and shipping within the lower 48 states is a flat fee of $10 for a total cost of $205 (AK and HI will be charged actual shipping). Payment is by cashier's or personal check and has two options: Option A is to pay the full $205 in one payment. Option B is to pay in two installments: Installment (A) for $85 reserves your barrel and is a downpayment to Faxon to begin manufacture. Installment (B) for $120 completes the transaction and receipt of this payment releases your barrel for shipment to you.
DOWNPAYMENT REFUND: The downpayment Installment (A) $85 is only refundable up to the date this group buy meets the minimum requirement for 50 orders and this downpayment is forwarded to Faxon to begin manufacture. AFTER the downpayment is paid to Faxon, the $85 Installment (A) is NON-REFUNDABLE. If you change your mind after that point and want to recoup your $85, you will need to sell your place in line to someone else. For downpayment refund purposes, payments in full will be treated as if they were the two installments.
ALL SALES FINAL: Due to the custom nature of this project, ALL SALES ARE FINAL. Installment (A) $85 is non-refundable AFTER it is forwarded to Faxon and Installment (B) $130 is a non-refundable final payment. Faxon guarantees their barrels will be manufactured to the specifications we call out and that the bore will be within two ten-thousandths of an inch (0.0002") cylindricity down its entire length. If a barrel is not to specification, Faxon pays for the return and replacement of the barrel. As a Gentlemen's Agreement, please understand the stipulations of this group buy and decline participation if our DOWNPAYMENT REFUND policy and ALL SALES FINAL policy is unacceptable to you.
SCHEDULE: I've invited Nathan Schueth of Faxon Firearms to join the forum and participate in this thread to answer any questions from his perspective. Nathan guessimates an 8- to 12-week time frame to make the custom tooling, and then after that a 4- to 6-week time frame to machine the barrels.
ORDERING: To get started, download and print out the attached order form, fill it out, and mail it with your check or money order to my address provided on the order form. Any personal questions please direct to my email (please, not PM here because it fills up too fast). Any public questions helpful to the group will be gathered to the FAXON 50 FAQ in this thread.
That about cover everything? OK, let's do this! The sooner we get 50 the sooner we're shooting a new 6.5 Grendel barrel!
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