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In California, gun control fails once again
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Was there a point you were trying to make with this video Stan other than California's gun control has failed once again.Originally posted by stanc View Post
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The point is that some folks think the failure is a result of inadequate gun control. Mass shootings seem to be occurring with disturbingly greater frequency.Originally posted by montana View Post
If an effective counter to such shootings is not soon implemented, I think the emotional reaction seen in the video will lead inexorably to more restrictive laws.Comment
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Uninformed people will react emotionally, will tend to look for an easy answer and blame the things they don't understand. The fact that California has some of the strongest gun control laws in the nation, "which has failed to prevent such crimes" has some how escaped their attention. The fact these crimes always occur in gun free zones has also escaped their attention. The real question is, do we as a society give all power and authority to the state for our protection or do we allow ourselves the right and ability to protect ourselves? I would argue the University of Hawaii's study on democide answers the first question. There is an effective counter to such shootings, "but for ignorance and political reasons" they are not wide spread or allowed. It is called the right to concealed carry.https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...ham-mcdonalds/Originally posted by stanc View PostLast edited by montana; 11-09-2018, 09:36 PM.Comment
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What are the odds that her son would be at two major shootings in a year 300 miles away from each other?Originally posted by stanc View Post
I guess it could happen. It just seems strange.Comment
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Wow, that is a bunch of hot links that don't work.
In regard to the OP, pretty much all laws fail. What we don't know is how often they do work. We only know when they fail. There could have been 50 other shootings that never happened because of the law, but we would never know it because they didn't happen.
Here I am NOT advocating that gun control works. I am just pointing out that what we see relevant to the law, any law, is when it does not stop somebody from infracting it. If a law is bad because it has failed, then virtually all laws apparently will be found to be bad because virtually all laws have failed.
I find it equally stupid that we create new laws to cover crimes already covered by laws. Murder is already illegal, but if you murder somebody because they are different from you, it becomes a "hate crime." Back in the 90s, {mostly} white people were torching black churches. That was already a crime of arson in every state where it occurred, such acts were made to be a federal crime (Church Arson Prevention Act of 1996). No doubt now those acts would also be considered hate crimes.
Similarly, there are instances where there have been mass shootings in pro gun states in non GFZs that were not stopped by armed citizenry. Does that mean concealed carry has failed as well? I know Texas has had our share, but we aren't the only ones.Kill a hog. Save the planet.
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Examples??? I think you need to do a little more research when comparing mass shootings in gun free zones and non gun free zones. https://crimeresearch.org/2018/06/mo...ass-shootings/Originally posted by Double Naught Spy View Post
Citizens abdicating their right to own firearms, "whether willingly or by force" has also proven disastrous.https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
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That's because they are not hot links. It's a screenshot. Sassy likes to use 'em in his posts.Originally posted by Double Naught Spy View PostComment
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Yep, but they were hot links as shown. Sort of the lazy and incomplete way to do things given that the screen shot doesn't even include the entire link on some of the links.Originally posted by stanc View PostKill a hog. Save the planet.
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It ain't just the uninformed. Most humans react emotionally.Originally posted by montana View Post
No, it hasn't. They just view it from the other direction -- as proof that CA gun laws are not strong enough.Originally posted by montana
I don't know why you think it's strange. SoCal residents go to Las Vegas every day. There were reportedly over 22,000 country music fans at the concert in Vegas. Most likely a large percentage of them were from SoCal. It does not seem particularly strange to me that a few of them would also go to a popular country music bar where they live.Originally posted by bj139 View Post
FYI, here's another one: https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/us/th...ors/index.htmlLast edited by stanc; 11-10-2018, 02:32 AM.Comment
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Yup, and it is the reason the reaction is emotional, not logical.At the point of reaction, emotions are very important for choosing the reaction. In fact even with what we believe are logical decisions, the very point of choice is arguably always based on emotion.Originally posted by stanc View Post
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.Originally posted by stanc View Post
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Originally posted by montana View PostKill a hog. Save the planet.
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