New ATF "rule" coming maybe today UPDATE: VACATED!

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  • dammitman
    Warrior
    • Dec 2012
    • 647

    #16
    i know what i am stocking up on,,,,,and i also have never ever ran out of primers shooting all i have ever wanted ,,,,not rocket science

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    • grayfox
      Chieftain
      • Jan 2017
      • 4311

      #17
      So. Here it is 8 days after they made a big hoo-hah about issuing a new rule... and still nothing published by fedreg.
      It's not a rule and the 120-day clock (that it has) doesn't start running until it is published in the Federal Register.
      I wonder what is going on, maybe the lawyers had a sudden change of heart?
      Or maybe this is just another example of the "speed" of govt.
      The timing of their "announcement" probably had more to do with some fund-raising $$$ coming in, than anything else.
      In the famous words of Bugs Bunny about dem guys: "What a MAROON!!!!!"
      "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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      • grayfox
        Chieftain
        • Jan 2017
        • 4311

        #18
        Anddddd......... We have a... well, LOSER!!!
        Notified today, and to be published tomorrow 4/26. Its 120-day clock countdown will begin.
        Federal Register :: Agencies - Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bureau
        Last edited by grayfox; 04-25-2022, 01:42 PM. Reason: correction
        "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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        • StoneHendge
          Chieftain
          • May 2016
          • 2018

          #19
          Let's go Brandon!

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          • grayfox
            Chieftain
            • Jan 2017
            • 4311

            #20
            Federal judge in N Texas vacates part of this ATF rule in summary judgment...
            (didn't have to go through the argument phases, which is good in this case... means this part was wrong on its face.)
            Federal Judge Vacates ATF 'Partially Complete' Pistol Frame Rule (breitbart.com)
            Other sites have a similar article as well.

            Using, in part, some of the ATF/govt's own twisted logic, he points out that parts, pieces, and partial-components are not weapons, that the GCA does not allow rulings on parts, and that the partial-guns aren't guns. They can't both partial and complete at the same time.
            That the govt cannot just make up new definitions to suit their purposes of the moment.
            That if the GCA does not define a term, then it takes its industry accepted definition, not what the tyrrny chooses on its own accord.
            Duh.
            This summary ruling means part of this new onslaught Reg is vacated.
            So 80% lower is back to being just a piece of metal. And Tools are not regulated by GCA.
            ATF exceeded its statutory authority.
            "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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            • grayfox
              Chieftain
              • Jan 2017
              • 4311

              #21
              More from the Judge's ruling! Excellent (and about time!!!) reasoning.

              the historical practice does nothing more than confirm that the agency has, perhaps in multiple specific instances over several decades, exceeded the lawful bounds of its statutory jurisdiction. That the agency may have historically acted ultra vires [beyond its authority]
              "Down the floor, out the door, Go Brandon Go!!!!!"

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              • LRRPF52
                Super Moderator
                • Sep 2014
                • 8619

                #22
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                • LRRPF52
                  Super Moderator
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8619

                  #23
                  They just got curb-stomped in the US Court of Appeals, 5th Circuit, and the judges are the ones who curb-checked them:

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                  • LRRPF52
                    Super Moderator
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8619

                    #24


                    US District Court Judge Reed O'Connor entered an injunction against the ATF and DOJ in a case involving Joe Biden "ghost gun" regulations addressing partially completed frames and receivers and weapons parts kids.
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                    • LRRPF52
                      Super Moderator
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8619

                      #25
                      BREAKING TODAY: FEDERAL APPEALS COURT RULES AGAINST ATF IN BIDEN GHOST GUN CASE

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