Who make the best drop-in trigger for my new toy.??? I am looking for an adjustable trigger that is single stage, and will go down to around 1# Is there one???
Very light drop-in trigger for Varmint Hunting
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Have you ever shot a semi-auto that had a medium amount of recoil with a one pound trigger? You may have a really hard time not bump firing the weapon unless it has a really long reset. Timney makes really nice 3# and 4# triggers. You can even bump fire the 3 pound if you try hard enough. I think a one pound trigger on an AR15 that is used in the field would be dangerous. YMMV.
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The reason that two stage triggers are superior to single stage triggers for an AR is that you can get the effectiveness of a light trigger with safe control. Hands down the best trigger you can get is a Geissele High Speed trigger. With it you can get down to one pound pull for the second stage that is better than any one pound single stage trigger and safe. A one pound single stage trigger will dump the entire mag before you get it stopped.
Bob
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I have a Timney modular trigger in my long range 6.5 Grendel rifle and its excellent. Recently I installed a PACT AR-Gold modular trigger in my tactical 6.5 Grendel. Both are exceptional triggers, but I have to say that I prefer the AR-Gold trigger better and will probably install swap it into my long range gun while putting the Timney into the tactical style gun.
I'd recommend either one without reservation but will say that I think the AR-Gold is the better of the two.
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I really like AA's trigger
Nice and crisp
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Originally posted by stokesrj View PostThe reason that two stage triggers are superior to single stage triggers for an AR is that you can get the effectiveness of a light trigger with safe control. Hands down the best trigger you can get is a Geissele High Speed trigger. With it you can get down to one pound pull for the second stage that is better than any one pound single stage trigger and safe. A one pound single stage trigger will dump the entire mag before you get it stopped.
BobNRA life, GOA life, SAF, and TSRA
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The camp is divided, 3 gunners, who shoot at 15 feet with optics (okay, I may be a little judgemental here) prefer single stage triggers. High Power Competitors who shoot at 200, 300, and 600 yards with metalic sights prefer two stage triggers. There is a reason and that reason is lost on most of us because it really doesn't matter too much under most conditons.
The national match course of fire for a service rifle requires a minimum trigger pull weight of 4.5 lbs. To insure that there is proper trigger controll and also offer a clean break with little if any disturbance of the rifle a two stage trigger with 3.5 lbs taken on the first stage and 1 lb taken on the second stage provides both, a very cntrollable trigger, less immune to degredation as the sear wears, yet yielding the same accuracy of a single stage one pound trigger is the answer. I've used many single stage tirggers and I have a Jewel 2 OZ. bech rest trigger on my Stolle Panda Grendel so I appreciate a good single stage trigger. However, I shoot a two stage trigger better.
I have several two stage triggers, one is an Anshutz on my McMillan Tubb 2000 in 6.5 grendel, it can be adjusted to whatever you like. I currently have it set for a 2.5 lb first stage and one pound second stage. I find this superior to even the 2 OZ Timeny on my Stolle Panda.
The 300 yard rapid fire prone event is probably the most demanding of proper trigger cotrol. I've shot several perfect scores on this event usig my Geissele High Speed National Match trigger. In this event you start from the standing position and when the targets apear drop to and assume the prone possition, fire two rounds, change magazines and fire eight more rounds for a total of ten rounds in 70 seconds from tatgets appearing to pulled into the pits. This event seperates the men from the boys, and for this event, no one I know of chooses a single stage trigger. Ther are 1,200 plus competitors that shoot the National Trophy Individual, Presidents, Hearst Doubles, National Trophy Team, and National Tropy Infantry team matches, and I have never met one who chooses to use a single stage trigger for an auto loading rifle.
The reason is they cannot shoot as tight a group with a single stage plus, it won't hold up to heavy use without sear wear.
I shot all of these matches this year with a Geiselle High Speed and so did every meember of the Florida State Team.
All these drop in single stage triggers are a great low complexity entry, but just to be clear they are a far second choice for serious rifle work.
Just an opinion, but one formed from watching a lot of riflemen slug it out.
Bob
But don't just take my word for it, Shooting Sports USA interviewed Carl Bernosky, current national champion and personal friend of mine. See what he says about it http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/ssusa_201210/#/10
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back when, I made a trade for 2 Timney's a Mccormick and 2 geisselles. All are great, although the McCormick is the least favorite. The Geisselles are kicking and I cannot say enough about them. This ended up to be a real life saver. Had a youth group going skiing, and we were hit head on. Really hurt my back badly and non of the kids got hurt _ thank God! Regardless, the easy pull actually means I make can make a cleaner shot. Not sure why, but the triggers are so easy to pull, my back actuall does not stress as much. Weird but true.
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