2000mr speer gold dot groups with video.

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  • RobUrban
    Bloodstained
    • Jul 2018
    • 94

    2000mr speer gold dot groups with video.

    Have been trying to find a load with the Speer gold dot 120gr and I think i am finally onto something. Put together a little video of the process. groups are at 100yds with a 20 inch group buy green mountain barrel.

  • Mad Charlie
    Warrior
    • May 2017
    • 827

    #2
    You might want to go with five shot groups, a little more statistical relevance.

    Appreciate the data. What primer?
    Last edited by Mad Charlie; 08-30-2019, 02:00 AM.

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    • Lemonaid
      Warrior
      • Feb 2019
      • 995

      #3
      Thank you for the info. Those who take the time and effort to post should be applauded!

      Not sure if this is the right spot to add info but this is my first loads with 27.8 of Power pro varmint and 120 Speer Gold dot, a proven accurate load for me with the 120 Sierra Game King

      Speer 120 Gold Dot, PPV 27.8, CCI 450, Hornady brass 24 inch barrel
      COAL Velocity Group Size Average Velocity
      2.280 2361, 2387, 2366, 2364, 2358 SD 11.47: 5=2.655 4=1.520 ave 2367
      2.270 2378, 2364, 2357, 2364, 2366 SD 7.62 : 3.445 ave 2365
      2.260 2361, 2376, 2366, 2378 SD 8.09 : 4.465 ave 2370
      2.280 2372, 2363, 2382, 2382 SD 9.14 : 3.380 ave 2375

      I'm not impressed yet with the Gold Dot. I am getting sub moa 5 shot groups with the 120 Sierra Pro Hunter using PPV and Win 748.
      Last edited by Lemonaid; 08-30-2019, 06:46 PM. Reason: correction

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      • RobUrban
        Bloodstained
        • Jul 2018
        • 94

        #4
        My plan is to find a load that shoots the best 3 shot group then retest that with a larger shot group. I kinda feel like i am wasting powder/bullets with a bunch of 1.5-2 inch groups with cfe.

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        • Mad Charlie
          Warrior
          • May 2017
          • 827

          #5
          Good point.

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          • kmon
            Chieftain
            • Feb 2015
            • 2096

            #6
            Ladder test will save ammo if you have a 300 yard range, it helps narrow down the selection quickly

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            • Lemonaid
              Warrior
              • Feb 2019
              • 995

              #7
              Originally posted by RobUrban View Post
              My plan is to find a load that shoots the best 3 shot group then retest that with a larger shot group. I kinda feel like i am wasting powder/bullets with a bunch of 1.5-2 inch groups with cfe.
              I am leaning away from three shot groups. It was leading me to false impressions that led to more testing to verify the results witch didn't pan out.
              After getting used to how my rifle performs with different loads I'm seeing a pattern (pun not intended)
              If a few five shot groups are terrible, say 3 moa it's extremely likely that bullet with any combination of powder and seating depth won't make me happy.
              If a few five shot groups produce at least one nice group then that bullet is worth further testing and likely will make me happy in the accuracy department.

              There should be a reliable formalized method to rule in or out bullets in the least amount of rounds. I would welcome suggestions!

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              • RobUrban
                Bloodstained
                • Jul 2018
                • 94

                #8
                I welcome all suggestions as I am relatively new to reloading. I was hoping I could get the gold dots to shoot because they are relatively cheap and seem like they would perform well on white tail this fall. I would be very happy with sub moa 5 shot groups near 2500fps.

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                • 1Shot
                  Warrior
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 781

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RobUrban View Post
                  I welcome all suggestions as I am relatively new to reloading. I was hoping I could get the gold dots to shoot because they are relatively cheap and seem like they would perform well on white tail this fall. I would be very happy with sub moa 5 shot groups near 2500fps.
                  Get you some IMR 8208, Hornady cases, CCI 450 primers and work up SLOWLY to 28 grs (this is MAX in my rifles) with the 120 GD and I use a medium Lee Factory Crimp. My COAL is 2.275 which is too long for Elander mags but works fine in ASC/ArStoner mags. This averages 2550 fps and sub MOA five shots at 100 yards from my 20" BCA barrel. I killed one deer with this last year and it did AWESOMELY. This runs about 2510 fps out of my 18" Oden Works barrel.
                  Last edited by 1Shot; 08-30-2019, 09:41 PM.

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                  • RobUrban
                    Bloodstained
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 94

                    #10
                    Primer is the CCI #400

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                    • RobUrban
                      Bloodstained
                      • Jul 2018
                      • 94

                      #11
                      Thanks for the info. 8208 xbr is on my short list to try out.

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                      • Mad Charlie
                        Warrior
                        • May 2017
                        • 827

                        #12
                        I get sub moa with 28gr 8208 or 27gr ARC and GM205MAR primers. No vel. #'s yet. This is from my 18" Satern/Liberty bbl. Still working up with the ARC. No issues at all so far.

                        I would also highly recommend 450's or Rem 7-1/2's with ball powders, might tighten up your groups and give you a little more speed. You will want to drop your charge a little and work up again of course.

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                        • RobUrban
                          Bloodstained
                          • Jul 2018
                          • 94

                          #13


                          I continued to work up some with the 2000MR. Gave 1 load a try at 250yds, shot around 1 MOA group at just over 2500fps with 31.7 grains of the 2000 MR. Going to use this this fall for white tail deer. This is pretty much the max hunting distance we will use. Hopefully I can post an update this fall with some deer down with it.

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                          • Happy2Shoot
                            Warrior
                            • Nov 2018
                            • 624

                            #14
                            Wow do people just throw darts at a wall with random numbers written on it to use for reloading charges?

                            SPEER MAX CHARGE
                            120GR GOLD DOT
                            IMR 8200 XBR
                            25.4GR
                            24" BARREL = 2405 FPS
                            Last edited by Happy2Shoot; 09-05-2019, 01:43 AM.

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                            • A5BLASTER
                              Chieftain
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 6192

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Happy2Shoot View Post
                              Wow do people just throw darts at a wall with random numbers written on it to use for reloading charges?

                              SPEER MAX CHARGE
                              120GR GOLD DOT
                              IMR 8200 XBR
                              25.4GR
                              24" BARREL = 2405 FPS
                              Lmao. Max for 8208 with 123 and lighter bullets is typically 28.5 this has been proven on this fourm for atleast 5 years if not more.

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