Desert Tactical Arms

[Bigfoot]

Hope so, unfortunately I get 14.5". Looks to me like the RDB is 14".

Couple more days..

[stanc]

Hope so, unfortunately I get 14.5".

I think you're closer to the actual figure. I made a slight error when estimating LOP at ~13.5". It should've been ~14" to middle of the butt, ~14.5" to heel of the butt.

[babue]

Anyone see any more info on this, now that SHOT had opened?

[WildBill3/75]

MDR-C is 5.56 MDR is .308

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgfXr6kUSSE

[WildBill3/75]

Takes standard 5.56 mags and sr25 308 mags
Calibers; .223rem 300blk 6.8spc 7.62x39 308win

pricing MDR=C .223 $2157
MDR .308 $2450

[stanc]

MDR-C is 5.56 MDR is .308
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgfXr6kUSSE

11:08 - Empty case gets stuck in ejection tube.

[stanc]

Calibers; .223rem 300blk 6.8spc 7.62x39 308win

No 6.5 Grendel??? Blasphemy!!!

[explorecaves]

11:08 - Empty case gets stuck in ejection tube.

Looks like the forward progress was stopped by the previous case. Just need to tip the barrel down to fully extract the case… or just keep firing...

[Bigfoot]

Hmm Disappointing calibers and ergos. Decent weight tho.

OK Kel-tec, watcha got?

[babue]

11:08 - Empty case gets stuck in ejection tube.

I do not think the case was stuck. The next shot fired would have tossed both out.
My FS2000 will hold 4 fired cases in the ejection tube before dumping them if you close the ejection port door.
Looks interesting. I think since it will be made in 7.62x39 it would be pretty easy for them to make some Grendel barrels if they got requests for them.
Just have to wait and see when it actually goes into production and the real price.

[GMinor]

meh.... give it some time...

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

No 6.5 Grendel??? Blasphemy!!!

My thought, exactly! However, in view of their projected release date (sometime in 2015), there's ample time for them to get "educated".

Overall, it's clear that they've done their homework, from a Bullpup'ers point of view.

[stanc]

I do not think the case was stuck. The next shot fired would have tossed both out.

Maybe. Maybe not. We can't tell from the video since the shooter grasped the stuck case and pulled it out, instead of just firing the next round.

[cory]

Has anyone that's at SHOT SHOW asked Desert Tac if they considered the Grendel?

[hydrotech]

The US has been selling F-16's to Pakistan for decades, in addition to scores of other military hardware. The first things the Paki's did with our F-16's was equip them to deliver nukes provided by China, which resulted in the Reagan Administration cutting off defense trade with Pakistan.

When the CIA ramped up their covert war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, the Paki's said they were totally willing to help, but they needed the embargo lifted, and they no longer wanted first generation F-16A/B's anymore, they wanted the latest F-16C. Currently, we have been selling them one of the most advanced F-16C/D Block 52 suites that is really a different plane in so many ways compared to the 1980's.

Since Pakistan has sea ports and roads that lead to Afghanistan, they hold the cards when dealing with the US and our need to get war materials through the Hindu Kush mountains into land-locked Afghanistan.

As to the DTA, I think this is an example of social responsibility demonstrated by a company that was in a position to profit significantly from the move. Pakistan doesn't really buy anything from the US, rather they use Foreign Military Aid provided by the US to purchase products exclusively from the US as part of the deal. Everyone in D.C. is happy as there is plenty of money to be spread around, and the State Department couldn't care less. Congress rains money on the districts that manufacture the advanced technology, and everyone goes home fat and happy.

Lrpf52 you have a pretty outstanding knowledge of history.