Wolf Steel - at 500 yards
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LE,
what were the range conditions like? i see more vertical spread (higher ES/SD) than horizontal (wind). when I occasionally shoot with the f-classers at mid range, which for them is 600 yards, i get coached that what they want to see for inexperienced shooters (me) with handloads is a horizontal dispersion (water table?). If the ES/SD is low, like they recommend for long distance shooting, one will get less vertical dispersion at distance. L/R dispersion is due to my inexperience with reading and compensating for variable wind conditions. If i end up with L/R dispersion, I can get some wind coaching. If I have a lot of vertical, they tell me go back to the drawing board wrt my reloads. Large ES/SD really shows up at distance. These guys keep tweaking loads until their SDs are single digits. Like 5 or so. I'm not there yet. My SDs are not consistently in the single digits. once in a while. I still haven't pinpointed what is varying to give me SDs in the low teens more often. however there are a lot of variables to consider when working to get SDs in the single digits. And not only does it have to have low SD, it also has to group well. due to barrel harmonics and such the two conditions don't always arrive together.
Still, you shot the rig/ammo pretty well LE. Congrats. well done.
is that the F-Class mid range, with the 1/2 MOA X ring or is that the standard NRA high power iron sight X ring of 1 MOA ?
again, congrats!!
-tdbru
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I have a vague recollection that Bill Alexander once said that the Russian ammo liked "deep, sharp, European-style" rifling. I noticed that the rifling in my Russian Saiga 7.62x39 was relatively thin and deep, FWIW. The groove to land ratio looked like 70/30.
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Originally posted by lazyengineer View PostI suspect (but haven't verified at all), that Alexander knows the Wolf Steel is 0.262 dia, since he helped develop it. And so does something with his own barrels to still work with that (maybe extra tall lands?).NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO
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From what I understand, vertical spread can also be from an improperly used rest. Anyone else heard of that? Apparently, if shooting prone, laying on a mat is counter productive. And/or inconsistent stock-to-shoulder engagement. Anyone else hear that? I read it in here a while back:
It seems more often than not when vertical stringing of a proven load is suddenly observed it is almost always attributed to the rear rest. Having played around with various techniques on the rear bag I was able to reduce vertical stringing when I followed the advice from Jeff on getting solid...
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Thanks for the inputs. FWIW, The one dropped round, I called as a low shot. Remove that one low shot, and there's pretty much no vertical spread greater than horizontal/group size.
For cheap Wolf Steel I was just playing around with, I find these results pretty astounding, personally!4x P100
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But in a barrel that likes it, it can shoot just fine...
If if works for you and your gun/barrel, OUTSTANDING!Kill a hog. Save the planet.
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Originally posted by Double Naught Spy View PostA statement that could be said for just about any ammo, of course. Problem is that for Wolf, a lot of barrels don't seem to like it, no doubt in part because it is a tad undersized as you note.
If if works for you and your gun/barrel, OUTSTANDING!
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