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The title says it all! I'm building my first Grendel AR, and I'm looking for something nice to put on the end of my barrel. What are some forum favorites?
The gamma vg6.5 is popular, and has good reviews in many places. What are you trying to accomplish?
Brake less recoil
Compensator less muzzle rise
Flash hider
Suppressor?
I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for, honestly. My knowledge of muzzle devices is low, though I've been trying to read new material every day to educate myself. I plan on using this AR at a bench for distance shooting (the longest range I have available to me is 400 yards at the moment). Any recommendations on what I should be looking for as far as choosing between less recoil, less muzzle rise, or flash reduction? I don't have any immediate plans on filling out paperwork for a suppressor, so I can take that option off the list for now. Sorry I'm so unknowledgeable on the subject-- I'm hoping to use this as a learning experience as well as an opportunity to get some good advice!
The VG6 Gamma 6.5 does it all pretty well and is by far the best value out there - I think I paid $65 for the last one I got. I have a few of them and also the 556 version on a 5.56. For distance shooting limiting muzzle movement should be the priority so you can maintain your sight picture and self spot your shots and have faster follow ups. Reducing recoil is nice, but is really more of a perk unless your ultra recoil sensitive, especially with grendel. There are also other ways to reduce felt recoil if the budget allows.
JP compensators also work really well and I've been really impressed with both the limited muzzle movement and recoil reduction from the Seekins ATC muzzle brake I have on my 6.5 CM.
VG 6.5, also the voodoo innovations 6.5 (or even the 7.62 in this one). I have both - they work well. And both rate very well in studies, PRS blog and TTAG...
Both of these accomplish recoil reduction and less muzzle rise. Not too pricey either.
Everyone swears by the one they got, testimonial-wise, but I looked for some objective results upon which to base my decisions...
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Went cheap on one, the Strike Ind. J-Comp II for the $35 it works well enough for me and was rated the best value per dollar by TTAG study. Also have a Griffin tapered flash comp that works well and doesn't seem too blasty, the VG Gammas as mentioned are nice as well with good performance for what they cost.
Go to YouTube and look for muzzle device reviews. From watching these the conclusion is that most of the breaks reduce recoil about the same as well as muzzle rise there are a few exceptions that do just a little different. The biggest difference between them is how much muzzle blast is directed back toward you or to the side. It is not too pleasant to be trying to shoot from the bench next to someone with a muzzle device that sends a bunch of blast your way. But again it is not very pleasant to be hunting and not have time to get hearing protection in place and shoot with most any of the breaks, they will deafen you. That is the reason that I went with the Kaw Valley Linear Comp. It may reduce recoil and muzzle rise a little, but the Gerr does not have that much anyway, but it sure does push the muzzle blast down range away from you. But I am mainly hunter. I guess you can say "Different strokes for different folks."
Primarily due to the TTAG tests (now 2-3 yrs old), I run Strike Ind. J-comps, King comps (excellent recoil reduction/$), & VG6 Gamma 65s (~$40 on sale) on my 16"+ barrels, & Midwest Ind. PBD blast diverters (~$30) on my 5.56 & Grrr pistols...
Need? Absolutely not. I’d definitely be getting a thread protector if not using a device of another flavor though. Unless you’re going to get a non threaded barrel.
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Need? Absolutely not. I’d definitely be getting a thread protector if not using a device of another flavor though. Unless you’re going to get a non threaded barrel.
ya was considering just going target crown on a heavy or semi bull
The title says it all! I'm building my first Grendel AR, and I'm looking for something nice to put on the end of my barrel. What are some forum favorites?
Thanks in advance!
As 1Shot said, I use the Kaw Valley Linear Comp (less than $40) on my 6.5G 11.5 SBR. I'm pleasantly surprised at how little, if any, gas gets blown back and the lack of teeth rattling that non-suppressed SBRs are sometimes noted for. The muzzle blast is directed forward. I often shoot at an indoor range and have yet to notice anyone visibly uncomfortable or hear anyone comment about the SBR muzzle blast. Second and third shots are quick as there is push-back into the shoulder and not so much muzzle flip. However, I also use a SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas block set at position 6 from closed. Lastly, I have a Law Tactical Folding Stock Adapter that makes discrete carry in a small duffel bag quite easy (nothing to do with recoil but a bonus comment ).
OP: What barrel length do you have? That's going to determine what I would recommend when considering brakes, if you want a brake.
6.5 Grendel doesn't need a brake, but benefits from them if all you're doing is target shooting.
Most of my builds have just used an A2 comp with the larger thread pattern compared to 5.56 A2 comps.
Some of the devices that stick out for me:
Precision Firearms MLD
LaRue TranQulio (TranQuilo suppressor attaches to it)
ThunderBeast Brake Attach brake for their cans
Dead Air Keymount brake (another brake attach suppressor mount)
The LaRue TranQuilo and Dead Air Keymount perform and look very similar to each other. They mitigate muzzle rise without being obnoxious to bystanders.
The PF and TBAC brakes mitigate recoil and muzzle climb exceptionally well, with added left-right concussion from the large gill approach used on them.
The TBAC brake is the smallest, shortest.
The PF MLD has a unique counter-rotational feature to it.
Both of my 22" Grendel's don't have any muzzle devices on them.
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I'm running a JEC brake on my heavy barreled Grendel. Next one will be a Little B*stard brake, mainly because JEC is out of business. I'm a fan of those fishgill brakes, they cut the recoil to nothing on everything I've put them on.
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